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Originally Posted by hollohas
And I'm certain that this mans wife being a REPUBLICAN State Representative had nothing to do with the .fed decision to arrest him. Curiouser & curiouser.Quote:
State Rep. Susan DeLemus, R-Rochester, confirmed that FBI agents arrested her husband Thursday morning. Fighting back tears, she told the Union Leader that was all she would say about the arrest at this point.
Before it gets to that point, just a reminder that the site neither supports nor condones (allows) discussion of armed resistance against the government. Anyone so inclined to discuss such a topic needs to take it elsewhere or face permanent banning.
I'd also like to remind everyone that, like the rest of the site, this is a publicly viewable/searchable thread.
Clear? Good.
Posted without comment. Facts only.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nv/pr/f...tandoff-nevada
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Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney’s Office
District of Nevada
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, March 3, 2016
Fourteen Additional Defendants Charged For Felony Crimes Related To 2014 Standoff In Nevada
LAS VEGAS, Nev. – The federal grand jury in Nevada has charged 14 more defendants in connection with the armed assault against federal law enforcement officers that occurred in the Bunkerville, Nev. area on April 12, 2014, over the removal of Cliven Bundy’s cows from public lands, announced U.S. Attorney Daniel G. Bogden for the District of Nevada and Special Agent in Charge Laura Bucheit for the FBI in Nevada.
“This investigation began the day after the assault against federal law enforcement officers and continues to this day,” said U.S. Attorney Bogden. “We will continue to work to identify the assaulters and their role in the assault and the aftermath, in order to ensure that justice is served.”
A superseding criminal indictment was returned by the grand jury on Wednesday, March 2, and now charges a total of 19 defendants. The 14 new defendants are Melvin D. Bundy, 41, of Round Mountain, Nev., David H. Bundy, 39, of Delta, Utah, Brian D. Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nev., Blaine Cooper, 36, of Humboldt, Ariz., Gerald A. DeLemus, 61, of Rochester, N.H., Eric J. Parker, 32, of Hailey, Idaho, O. Scott Drexler, 44, of Challis, Idaho, Richard R. Lovelien, 52, of Westville, Okla., Steven A. Stewart, 36, of Hailey, Idaho, Todd C. Engel, 48, of Boundary County, Idaho, Gregory P. Burleson, 52, of Phoenix, Ariz., Joseph D. O’Shaughnessy, 43, of Cottonwood, Ariz., and Micah L. McGuire, 31, and Jason D. Woods, 30, both of Chandler, Ariz.
Twelve defendants were arrested earlier today. Two defendants, Brian D. Cavalier and Blaine Cooper, were already in federal custody in the District of Oregon.
“These indictments and subsequent arrests send an irrefutable message to the American people that our determination remains steadfast to protect them and pursue individuals who participate in violent acts of this nature,” said Special Agent in Charge Bucheit.
The newly-added defendants are charged with one count of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States and conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer, and at least one count of using and carrying a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, assault on a federal officer, threatening a federal law enforcement officer, obstruction of the due administration of justice, interference with interstate commerce by extortion, and interstate travel in aid of extortion. The indictment also alleges five counts of criminal forfeiture which upon conviction would require forfeiture of property derived from the proceeds of the crimes totaling at least $3 million, as well as the firearms and ammunition possessed and used on April 12, 2014.
Charges against the original five defendants, Cliven D. Bundy, 69, of Bunkerville, Nev., Ryan C. Bundy, 43, of Mesquite, Nev., Ammon E. Bundy, 40, of Emmet, Idaho, Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Mont., and Peter T. Santilli, Jr., 50, of Cincinnati, Ohio, remain the same.
The superseding indictment states that the charges result from a massive armed assault against federal law enforcement officers that occurred in and around Bunkerville, Nev., on April 12, 2014. The defendants are alleged to have planned, organized, and led the assault in order to extort the officers into abandoning approximately 400 head of cattle that were in their lawful care and custody. In addition to conspiring among themselves to plan and execute these crimes, the defendants recruited, organized, and led hundreds of other followers in using armed force against law enforcement officers in order to thwart the seizure and removal of Cliven Bundy’s cattle from federal public lands. Bundy had trespassed on the public lands for over 20 years, refusing to obtain the legally-required permits or pay the required fees to keep and graze his cattle on the land.
The superseding indictment charges that Cliven Bundy was the leader, organizer, and chief beneficiary of the conspiracy, and possessed ultimate authority over the conspiratorial operations and received the economic benefits of the extortion. The remaining defendants are charged as leaders and organizers who conspired with Bundy to achieve his criminal objectives.
The maximum penalties for the charges are stated below.
Conspiracy to Commit an Offense Against the United States – 5 years, $250,000 fine
Conspiracy to Impede and Injure a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 6 years, $250,000 fine
Assault on a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 20 years, $250,000 fine
Threatening a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 10 years, $250,000 fine
Use and Carry of a Firearm in Relation to a Crime of Violence – 5 years minimum and consecutive
Obstruction of the Due Administration of Justice - 10 years, $250,000 fine
Interference with Interstate Commerce by Extortion - 20 years, $250,000 fine
Interstate Travel in Aid of Extortion – 20 years, $250,000 fine
The case is being investigated by the FBI and the Bureau of Land Management. It is being prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Steven W. Myhre and Nicholas D. Dickinson and Special Assistant U.S. Attorneys Nadia J. Ahmed and Erin M. Creegan.
The public is reminded that an indictment contains only charges and is not evidence of guilt. The defendants are presumed innocent and entitled to a fair trial at which the government has the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Originally Posted by hollohas
This is clearly a well-planned and patient strategy to make an example out of Bundy and anyone who dared to stand next to him in 2014. It'll be interesting to see if the trials get any publicity/media attention and if so, if it will just turn Bundy and his co-conspirators into "martyrs" for the anti-BLM crowd. When an individual makes the government mad, and the government is in charge of that individual's trial (including the media coverage of it), I don't see how the individual can get a fair trial.
Video shows cellphone footage in sync with aerial footage we've all seen. Sounds like Lavoy was saying " You're gonna have to shoot me" over and over until they did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLHiU8gYWY
I had thought that maybe he was trying to direct fire away from the truck when he got out and so quickly moved so far away from the truck with his hands up. The video might agree, but hard to say. You can hear the first bullets hit the truck prior to it crashing and then even more hit the truck just as he was getting out with his hands up. It's indisputable in this video that they started shooting BEFORE he reached for his jacket. The rounds fired while the truck was still in motion can be justified, the shots fired as he reached into his jacket can be justified, but rounds fired while he exited with hands up cannot be.
And then there is this...apparently the FBI may have LIED about that fact...
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...gents_und.html
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An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice at Robert "LaVoy" Finicum and may have gotten help from four other FBI agents in covering up afterward, authorities revealed Tuesday.
The bullets didn't hit Finicum and didn't contribute to his death, but now all five unnamed agents, part of an elite national unit, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department. Inspector General Michael Horowitz is leading the independent inquiry.
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...rt_maj-story-1Quote:
Officer statements and cellphone video taken by Cox from inside the truck showed that Finicum repeatedly ignored police orders, first at the traffic stop and then after he crashed trying to elude officers. He nearly ran over an FBI agent before stalling in a roadside snowbank.
What happened in just seconds after that crash could lead to criminal charges against the FBI agents.
Cox's video showed that one shot hit the truck's left rear passenger window as Finicum stepped out. At the time, Finicum appeared to have his hands at least at shoulder height.
Investigators later established that the bullet entered the truck through the roof before shattering the window and concluded it was fired by an FBI agent. Another bullet from the same FBI agent apparently went wild and missed the truck altogether, the investigation showed.
Bullet hole in the ROOF of the truck? Airborn sniper?? The aerial footage was the wrong angle for the shot to have come from there. Was there another aerial asset or perhaps the FBI agent was just at some elevated position...?Quote:
Investigators from the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office could account for bullet holes in the left front hood, the driver's side mirror and the front grille. They came from the automatic weapon of a state trooper who had fired three times at the truck as Finicum raced at 70 mph toward a police roadblock on Jan. 26.
The angle of a fourth bullet hole didn't match the others.
An elaborate computer analysis, a review of the FBI aerial video of the shooting scene and a video from a passenger in Finicum's pickup produced a result that startled the team poring over evidence into Finicum's fatal shooting that day.
The fourth round, police concluded, was fired by an FBI agent who subsequently twice denied to investigators ever firing his gun. As the investigation proceeded, detectives determined he also fired a second time, but didn't hit anything at the scene.
The discovery of that gunfire and conduct afterward by the agent and four other agents have triggered a criminal investigation that could result in the prosecution of all five. The agents all serve on the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team. Authorities on Tuesday released few details about the matter and didn't identify the agents by name.
As far as roof, was there anyone on top of a vehicle? Or the vehicle did some jumping and ended up at a bit of an angle didn't it? Thru the roof doesn't have to mean straight on down, could easy just hit straight on to the vehicle highish on the roof and deflected down, again especially if the vehicle was at any kind of angle to the shooter..... or rereview film for tree stands. Dunno.
It most definitely didn't come straight down. It came through the roof and out the window. Truck may have been at a bit of an angle.
Dunno.
I was just curious. The angle and origination of the shot don't really matter, I was just thinking out loud (via my fingers).
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Originally Posted by foxtrot