Unarmed, wounded 19-yr old causes Boston lockdown

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

What about the video the media keeps playing with all the gunfire after the suspect is found in the boat? Law enforcement was shooting at an unarmed suspect?

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They were so freaked out they would have shot a cat in an alley thinking it was a terrorist cat. What is truly amazing is that either of them still draws breath.

I was listening to the Boston scanner that night, and there was a time during the search when an officer came on asking if there were any long-guns found at the scene of the first shootout (with both brothers). The officer answered that there were two handguns in the street along with two "devices." The officers confirmed this back and forth a couple of times.

I never understood why the media was not listening to the same scanner traffic I was.
All night, I was hearing one thing from the cops, and at the same time, completely made up BS from the media.

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Originally Posted by davsel

completely made up BS from the media.

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The 'media' disseminates a story, but I'm no longer convinced who the author is, regardless of who the story is attributed to. The media may simply be a puppet/mouthpiece to further someones agenda.

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Originally Posted by losttrail

So now it appears that the Ruger 9mm pistol recovered at the scene after the 26-yr older brother was killed, was the only firearm these two low-lifes had.

Despite the Leftist media reports of multiple handguns and an assault rifle, latest reports are that the 19-yr old was unarmed, bleeding, hiding in that boat.

I know hindsight is 20/20, but when our FBI can't even track the older brother after Russia alerts us that they have concerns, and he is collecting welfare, it just shows that our 'intelligence' agencies are highly suspect in their capabilities.

That then calls into question a number of decisions made, IMHO.

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You had me nodding in agreement until the dig on intelligence agencies. Ya know, people bitch and moan quite a bit (I know, I got it all the time in the Army) about how intelligence folks aren't good enough and what not... What exactly are your expectations? Do you think we're God or something? We can't know everything all the time, and we're not omnipotent and precognitive. FBI, CIA, etc. probably did have this guy on their radar, and just because Russia says "keep an eye on this guy" doesn't exactly warrant going on a witch hunt and shipping someone off to Gitmo. They probably didn't find any evidence to do much of anything. As crooked as our federal LE can be, 9/10 times they still have rules to follow, especially when it comes to foreign threats. After Benghazi it was the Obama administration trying to levy the blame on the "intelligence community," but for some reason no one gave the intelligence community a pat on the back for foiling the Millennium operation and the Brooklyn Bridge operation (oh what's that, never heard of those two foiled attack attempts? Not surprised), but the second you don't stop something from happening, suddenly you're incompetent and incapable...? /rant

As to this whole thing, I honestly think we're not getting the whole story. Also, on top of that, a judge and federal attorney came in this morning and Mirandized the suspected bomber (yes, I didn't mince words, he hasn't been proven guilty in a court of law). That surely ended the FBI's questioning when he exercised his right to remain silent. What they did was totally legal, as it was needed prior to his arraignment, but I do question the timing of both the reading of his Miranda rights and the scheduling of the arraignment before the FBI concluded their interrogation.

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Originally Posted by Dingo

I assault my wife's tai.... never mind. :-)

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lol winning...

Remember that not only are all media wonks under pressure to get the story out before the other guys, their story has to be more sensational than the other guys' as well. Truth? They're not concerned about no stinking truth. They're concerned with advertising revenue. The faster they get out the more sensational story, the more advertisers they'll attract and the higher they can jack up their rates. Cha-ching, everybody gets another buck.

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Originally Posted by rondog

Remember that not only are all media wonks under pressure to get the story out before the other guys, their story has to be more sensational than the other guys' as well. Truth? They're not concerned about no stinking truth. They're concerned with advertising revenue. The faster they get out the more sensational story, the more advertisers they'll attract and the higher they can jack up their rates. Cha-ching, everybody gets another buck.

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Agreed.
Wouldn't it be nice if just one of the major networks worked hard to put out the "truth."
I believe they would gain quite the following once they earned a reputation.

Henninger had a good column in the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...MoreIn_Opinion

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Originally Posted by Daniel Henninger

In contrast to the Bush era fight over how many judges had to approve surveillance of terrorism suspects, we had the transfixing spectacle last week of Bostonians okay with having their city transformed into a state of virtual martial law after the bombs went off.

The citizens of Boston and its suburbs allowed massively armed SWAT teams to enter their homes, order residents out and eventually find the bullet-riddled Dzhokhar Tsarnaev lying half-dead in a boat. When it was over, people lined the streets to cheer the police army. You'd need more than a roving wiretap to find a peep of objection from the old Bush critics.

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Originally Posted by Daniel Henninger

But let us posit an unimpeachable fact: Whatever their eventual opinion of "Bush-Cheney," Bostonians and Americans generally would have happily signed off on a warrantless wiretap of the Tsarnaevs' phones before the deaths and mutilations of April 15, 2013. The long fight over the Bush domestic antiterror effort was a case study in partisan extremism run amok in Washington, even as a silent majority of Americans across the political spectrum wanted such protections.

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So, what about that boat? Did they shoot it fulla holes like that house in Clint Eastwood's "The Gauntlet" and the douchebag came out unharmed? Any photos of the poor, deceased boat? If I was the owner I'd be pissed.

Also- point of contention to add:

"Unarmed, wounded 19-yr old causes Boston lockdown"

This title is, I believe, a bit inappropriate- Is the OP implying that Dzhokar Tsarnaev is not a BG? It's a little misleading in a perceived bias that perhaps the person police took into custody on Friday was not indeed an armed and dangerous suspect.