The NTSB recommends dropping that to a BAC level of .05.

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Originally Posted by Chad4000

ok...bigger argument then..

is societies accepted form of transportation reasonably expected while you are in search of happiness? I think so... couple that with penalties that are clearly outrageous and over the top, and we have a problem. I dont think it's fair to punish people for something that might happen... DUI check points dont even make you swerve to catch the eye of a cop. they literally engage you for zero reason, and slam you for something that might happen. as in you might have a wreck later tonight, which might result in an injury.. it, like everything else, is just revenue generation.

one beer an hour will already put you over the limit. average cost of a dui is roughly $10k.. every single person that leaves a bar on any given night is over the limit. if they are concerned about safety, put a cop right there everyday. they arent. they post a car on heavy traffic nights or something once in awhile, and they basically get their pick of whoever is leaving that night...

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I did a bit a of research and found a BAC calculator (http://dui.drivinglaws.org/calc.php) did and average man 180 pounds half an hour had 2 beers and the BAC was .0466 Under .05 BAC close but still under. so the arguement of having one beer and being over the limit is untrue i even did another calculation if you were 100 pounds and downed a beer in 6 mins your BAC would be .0433. Unless you have a source to prove that your argument is true. with your line of thinking to not punish a person because something might happen then we might as well legalize all drugs for recreational use because its unfair to punish a person for something that might happen. I might be a bit bias because of past experiences but that's my view on the subject.

Not really related but funny none the less:


Recently a routine police patrol parked outside a local bar. Late in the evening the officer noticed a man leaving the bar so intoxicated he could barely walk. The man stumbled around the parking lot for a few minutes with the officer quietly observing. After what seemed an eternity and trying his keys on five different vehicles, the man managed to find his own car and fell into it. He was there for a few minutes as a number of other patrons left the bar and drove off.
Finally he started the car, switched the wipers on (it was a dry night), flicked the hazard flasher on and off, tooted the horn and then switched on the lights. He moved the vehicle forward a few inches, reversed a little and then remained stationary for a few more minutes as more patrons left in their vehicles. At last he pulled out the parking lot and started to drive down the street, the police officer, having patiently waited all that time, now started up his patrol car, put on the flashing lights, promptly pulling the man over and carried his breathalyzer test with him ... To his amazement the breathalyzer indicated no evidence of the man having consumed alcohol at all! Dumfounded, the officer said, "I'll have to ask you to accompany me to the police station, this breathalyzer must be broken. "I doubt it," said the man, "Tonight I'm the Designated Decoy."

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I did a bit a of research and found a BAC calculator (http://dui.drivinglaws.org/calc.php) did and average man 180 pounds half an hour had 2 beers and the BAC was .0466 Under .05 BAC close but still under. so the arguement of having one beer and being over the limit is untrue i even did another calculation if you were 100 pounds and downed a beer in 6 mins your BAC would be .0433. Unless you have a source to prove that your argument is true.

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That calculator should not be used as a legal adviser. It doesn't take in different genetics, metabolic rate, diet for the day, if they have eaten recently... several factors. So go ahead and rely on that calculator, and when you get popped for being over the limit and lose your license for year, we'll be here to say "Told ya so." [Coffee]

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

We already have that as our limit here in Colorado.

.05-.079 BrAC - Driving While Ability Impaired (DWAI)
.08 - above BrAC - Driving Under the Influence (DUI)

For those under 21:
.02 - .049 "Baby DUI" - Class A traffic Infraction; second or subsequent violation is a Class 2 Misdemeanor

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Yep. Wrote a few people for DWAI because I could smell the odor of an unknown alcoholic beverage on their breath during a traffic stop and they failed SFST. Sometimes the initial contact wasn't even for something I would have related to having alcohol in the blood stream, just poor driving.

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Originally Posted by DavieD55

It boils down to generating more revenue.

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+1
We only dropped the limit from .1 to .08 to get federal transportation funding that was being threatened by M.A.D.D.

Dont need any note laws. We have enough.

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That calculator should not be used as a legal adviser. It doesn't take in different genetics, metabolic rate, diet for the day, if they have eaten recently... several factors. So go ahead and rely on that calculator, and when you get popped for being over the limit and lose your license for year, we'll be here to say "Told ya so." [Coffee]

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I don't drink. [Coffee]

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It boils down to generating more revenue.

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ITYM Stealing People's Property Under the Color of law for Pre-Crime savez the children ! Its all good, its is exactly the same argument the gun grabbers make. ie) While you may have not harmed a soul or did any property damage, we shall restrict gun or magazine xyz, becasue hey its for the children. Somehow that is OK with pre-crime laws like DUI but not for guns.

Uh-huh

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I did a bit a of research and found a BAC calculator (http://dui.drivinglaws.org/calc.php) did and average man 180 pounds half an hour had 2 beers and the BAC was .0466 Under .05 BAC close but still under. so the arguement of having one beer and being over the limit is untrue i even did another calculation if you were 100 pounds and downed a beer in 6 mins your BAC would be .0433. Unless you have a source to prove that your argument is true. with your line of thinking to not punish a person because something might happen then we might as well legalize all drugs for recreational use because its unfair to punish a person for something that might happen. I might be a bit bias because of past experiences but that's my view on the subject.

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Eh.. googled it and came up with that.. You can def see situations where one or two drinks would put people over. have a drink and leave in 30 minutes? yeah maybe..

um,, basically we have to draw a line somewhere. remember our rights should extend up until they infringe some one elses. now in extremes like hard drugs, we have to make judgement calls. is that the same as dropping the BAC requirement for harsh penalties down to the point where if you sniff alcohol you go to jail??? I dont believe so.. (and yes, you are sensing some exaggerations there). Everybody has past experiences on these subjects, and it's perfectly fine to weight your opinions with those.

Say you have 2 beers, and get stopped at a check point... lose your liscense for a year.. a year... insurance rates sky rocket (if it's even possible to get insured anymore), your job is at risk if not gone already, you pay thousands of dollars etc.

Say that happens again 3 years later,, automatic jail time.... (somebody correct me if need be)

a total of 4 beers could do this to you... I know how that sounds.. but it's correct

Put on more weight, it will help your BAC increase slower.