VETERAN’S AR-15 CONFISCATED BY POLICE- And he's facing criminal charges!

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Originally Posted by sandman76

Isn't this kind of what Dumbass Joe was recommending? Fire through the door.

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I do recall the same.

I wish he would've said that in the interview... Something to the effect of: "I just did what Joe Biden advised me to do when faced with an intruder!"

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Originally Posted by sandman76

Isn't this kind of what Dumbass Joe was recommending? Fire through the door.

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I don't think you can use that defense in court though. "But our Veep said to fire through the door."
Besides, this is why I don't fire warning shots:
http://cdn.firearmstalk.com/forums/a...1238996026.jpg

They need to drop all the charges against this guy if this story is accurate.

Mistakes in order of importance:

1) living in Medford, OR
2) attempting to rationalize with someone intent on doing you harm
3) firing a warning shot
4) atttempting to rationalize with the police about your actions


The guy is owned, by his own admission is wasnt under immeninet threat -- if he was he wouldn't/couldn't of fired a 'warning' shot.

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Originally Posted by sandman76

Isn't this kind of what Dumbass Joe was recommending? Fire through the door.

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This only applies to double barrel shotguns.

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Originally Posted by DavieD55

They need to drop all the charges against this guy if this story is accurate.

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I imagine they will before all is said and done ... but he can kiss the rifle goodbye (unless he's willing to pay a lawyer 10 times what its worth to fight to maybe get it back).

The lessons I learn from this are thus:

• "Warning Shots" should be delivered to COM.
• Self defense guns should be considered disposable.
• Expect persecution (no that's not a misspelling of prosecution) if the local Law Enforcement agency that will be responding to your self defense shooting has a history of anti-gun attitude (and my guess is that Oregon most police chiefs are Dem appointees).

Warning shot was a bad idea, but it did stop the crime without loss of life. Unfortunately I can believe the cops made the decision they did. Very rare nowadays to find someone who knows the difference between "ordnance" and "justice".

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Originally Posted by The Rat

Warning shots in stateside self defense is a dumb idea all around. We're not doing EOF measures against daydreaming Iraqi drivers anymore here. A totally different AO means totally different ways of doing things.

It's dumb that he had it confiscated, but he shouldn't have expected anything else to happen.

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Kinda what I was thinking! Gun pointed- Get the f' out. he advances, don't think he is advancing to be your friend and shake your hand. Use the least amount of force necessary, which would not involve shooting a round into the ground.

IF you must shoot, you shoot to eliminate the threat..not to warn - especially if the bad guy is walking away already. There is no reason whatsoever for him to pull that trigger. As much as I sympathize with the homeowner, he made a bad judgement. Hopefully the prosecutor or judge let him off.