I always did it in squares. Come to a point. 90 in one,pick your point, pace it, 90 forward, pace it, 90 back and 90 forward. In the worst your downhill in the best your up and once you do it can shoot it back to a point you picked before the jog. Hope I made sense of that.[Flower] I was never a high speed, low drag kind of guy but I learned a lot in PLDC going through with a bunch of 75th guy's. BNOC was worthless for me in my MOS when it came to grunt skillz. [LOL]