Ban the Pladge of Allegiance

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Originally Posted by Rucker61

My kids will be learning Latin this year, and we don't live anywhere near Latin American.

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I may make that my new signature..

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Originally Posted by Rucker61

My kids will be learning Latin this year, and we don't live anywhere near Latin American.

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And, sadly, their fluency in Latin won't do squat for them if they do move to Latin America...

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Originally Posted by hatidua

And, sadly, their fluency in Latin won't do squat for them if they do move to Latin America...

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But it helps with cool sig lines![Coffee]

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Originally Posted by asmo

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

I have no problem with going back to that. God doesn't belong in the pledge. The pledge still belongs in school.

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Agreed.
I recited the old version all through middle and highschool. Once in 7th grade a substitute tried to call me out for reciting it wrong, it was funny watching her try to backpedal.

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Originally Posted by asmo

the "under God" portion wasnt added until 1954. Before that it read:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

I have no problem with going back to that. God doesn't belong in the pledge. The pledge still belongs in school.

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Frankly, even I don't have a problem with the "under God" version of the pledge.
It is, in my view, God, any God, be it Christ, Allah, Budda or as an Atheist, yourself.
It involves whoever or whatever you have most sacred in the equation, nothing wrong with that.

BTW, 30 more posts...[Muaha]

Allow me to play devil's advocate for a second...(not trying to piss anyone off, just more posing this question for discussion purposes):

Is it possible to love America and being an American...without wanting to "pledge allegiance"? It could seem statist to pledge allegiance to a country unless you are in the military.

Just curious about everyone's thoughts.

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Originally Posted by asmo

the "under God" portion wasnt added until 1954. Before that it read:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

I have no problem with going back to that. God doesn't belong in the pledge. The pledge still belongs in school.

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Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem

Allow me to play devil's advocate for a second...(not trying to piss anyone off, just more posing this question for discussion purposes):

Is it possible to love America and being an American...without wanting to "pledge allegiance"? It could seem statist to pledge allegiance to a country unless you are in the military.

Just curious about everyone's thoughts.

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Hey you better kneel down and love mother Russia! Such talk will get you hauled off in the middle of the night. We have seen the road the youth take when allowing them follow the low road, do you want the US to continue down that path?

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Originally Posted by Rucker61

Seriously? The benefits to the brain of learning a second language, any language, are well documented. My kids will be learning Latin this year, and we don't live anywhere near Latin American.

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Yes I am fucking serious! If my kids learn to speak German, french what ever by choice that is fine by me. I am German/Irish. But to force my 5 year old to learn Spanish because some fucktard illegal immigrant refuses to learn and teach their kid English is fucked up! If their kid can't communicate with others at the U.S. public school they need to adapt not the other way around.

Can't talk about God in school, can't talk about guns, can't talk about illegal immirgants... But we can talk about butt sex and smoking drugs...Just great.