Long Distance 22LR - Scope Zero, Base and Elevation Adjustment?

Here is my zero target at 100yds using Aguila Golden Eagle Subsonics. The middle 3 in the orange dot are zeroed. That orange dot is 1" in diameter. The zero started at the hole top right, walked it down, then left too far, then down too far, then right and got it on the dot and did the final 3 shots without touching the turrets.

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Here's my rifle and the target out at 200yds.

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View through the scope at 200yds.

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Here is my best 200yd grouping. It is the three holes at 10-11 oclock by the huge orange dot. Overall, they are roughly 1.5" high apart and 0.75" wide, so less than 1moa if you can believe that. I tried adjusting to get it in the center, and ended up in the hole at the 1:30 oclock position of the orange dot. Gave up at that point. The top target is me walking in the scope at 50yds. Guess I only fired 2 shots at first, changed scope inserts, and the two just to the left (2" right of vertical line between two targets) was after the inserts were changed. Then I walked it in, forgetting that 1/8" moa clicks at 50yds is a lot more clicks than I first thought [LOL]

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Originally Posted by Tim K

I agree somethings funny in the way you have the scope mounted. I'd do the DIP rail and be done with it.

I do like my TRS-1, but if you can live without variable power I'd consider a SWFA Super Sniper. Pick you magnification. They do 4X, 6X, 10X, 12X, 16X, and 20X. I bought a 20X for a precision AR and like it. I liked it enough that I just bought a 16X for my soon-to-be-finished 40X. It should show up Monday or Tuesday. They are $300. Glass is decent and they have a reputation for tracking. I haven't put mine on the test fixture yet, but I'm hoping to get to that this weekend sometime.

The TRS-1 is acceptable glass. I checked tracking on mine and checked the reticle subtensions, and it was spot on. The clicks feel like crap but seem to work. Here's the real problem, and it's become almost a show stopper for me. The reticle is calibrated at 10X, not max power of 16X. It's amazingly stupid. It didn't matter to me early in my shooting journey because I wasn't using the reticle for wind holds. Now that I've seen that particular light, it's a source of constant aggravation.

In fact, it pissed me off enough the last time I shot it I'm considering selling it and buying yet another Super Sniper.

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Thanks for the tips, decide that at $42 shipped, I'll just get the DIP 25moa rail and use that only. I'm probably okay without variable, never had a scope without it but I had already considered getting a SWFA SS scope for my .308 build, so if I got it for my 22LR rifle, which I'm using to be a better long distance shooter, then I'll be very familiar with the scope when I get another for my .308 build (or just pull this one onto it). I was looking at either the 12x or 16x, do they both have the 120moa internal adjustment that I've been seeing people claim? That value isn't listed on the product page (it just says "Mils" next Elevation/Windage Adjustment).

And this is what I mean with this rifle, I really want to LOVE it (its beautiful, love how it shoots at 50yds, today my tightest group was just under 1/2", I could barely make out all 3 holes). But every time I take it out and try to zero the scope in the middle of the travel using those burris rings, it doesn't work the way it should and I end up taking the scope off 3-5 times per session before I give up and go home. In the past 1.5yrs I've owned that scope, it has only truly been zeroed today at 100yds. The rest of the time as soon as I got home, I took the scope off to change out the inserts since they didn't do jack.

If you're looking at an SS, they've got some pretty good deals running right now. I just picked up a 16X fixed SS that came with a free set of their rings and a level for $277.36 shipped. ($50 off the scope plus the free rings and level)

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Originally Posted by XC700116

If you're looking at an SS, they've got some pretty good deals running right now. I just picked up a 16X fixed SS that came with a free set of their rings and a level for $277.36 shipped. ($50 off the scope plus the free rings and level)

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Thanks, yea I already saw that today. I really shouldn't buy it now (at least until my other scope is sold), but with a deal like that I might end up getting it now and selling my other scope immediately.

eta: And I'm thinking I'll just get the 10x MRAD with mil-quad reticle.

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Originally Posted by XC700116

If you're looking at an SS, they've got some pretty good deals running right now. I just picked up a 16X fixed SS that came with a free set of their rings and a level for $277.36 shipped. ($50 off the scope plus the free rings and level)

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I tried to buy one but they were showing out of stock. Still are.

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Originally Posted by BuffCyclist

I was looking at either the 12x or 16x, do they both have the 120moa internal adjustment?.

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No, higher powers give less adjustment. I just asked them that very question and got an email response. I can't for the life of me find it. Whatever the numbers were, they were not the same.

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Originally Posted by Tim K

I tried to buy one but they were showing out of stock. Still are.

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Really? I can't see any stock info on the SWFA website, looks to me like all of their scopes are in-stock.

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Originally Posted by Tim K

No, higher powers give less adjustment. I just asked them that very question and got an email response. I can't for the life of me find it. Whatever the numbers were, they were not the same.

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Ah yes that's right, thank you for that reminder! Might end up ordering the 10x anyways.

They show in stock until you put it in your cart. If you can make it work, order one for me.

you have to open the individual scope page, (can't use the add to cart button from the list page) Then select the rings you want and add to cart.

go here http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-16x42-Tactic...pe-P53715.aspx

Then click on the ring you want below the add to cart button, then hit add to cart.

It's goofy as hell, and took me a trip to their FB page to figure it out.

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Originally Posted by Tim K

They show in stock until you put it in your cart. If you can make it work, order one for me.

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Really? When I put it in my cart, it doesn't say anything about being in-stock, backordered, or unavailable even. [Dunno]