Another sign how CO is failing

This morning at the same hospital the police shot a guy with a knife.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news...nife/10007971/

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Originally Posted by Colorado_Outback

How do they have the authority to detain you?

Edit: Hospital employees/ security I mean. Now any one can be detained by a business or building owner under the guise of public safety?

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They can't and it would be interesting to see an outcome of this. Same issue came up at another hospital during a bomb threat. They let people leave as they please.

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Originally Posted by crashdown;1641479[B

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Sorry, but locking the doors so a guy with a gun might not be able to get in is going to mean some people might not be able to get out either.
I'm sure no hospital employee wants to stand at a glass door with a key letting people out when there could be a dude with rifle about to shoot his way in.
... and yes, the felony charges should be listed before misdemeanor charges in my opinion.

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Sorry, but that's crap.
Restricting access is one thing, the building owner has the right to do that at his discretion . Telling everyone inside the building they arnt allowed to leave, not so much.

If I find myself in that situation, ill have no problem letting my self out (via the emergency exit).

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Originally Posted by newracer

This morning at the same hospital the police shot a guy with a knife.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news...nife/10007971/

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Hickenlooper's first goon didn't follow through as planned so he had to send in goon #2. [Sarcasm2]

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Originally Posted by Colorado_Outback

Sorry, but that's crap.
Restricting access is one thing, the building owner has the right to do that at his discretion . Telling everyone inside the building they arnt allowed to leave, not so much.

If I find myself in that situation, ill have no problem letting my self out (via the emergency exit).

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I disagree with your disagree and raise you another argument....[Beer]

4 minutes is hardly enough time to sort things out.
Active shooter in the front parking lot, sure the back emergency exit make sense. But.... that was how the whole Aurora shooting happened was an open (one way) emergency exit. If the hospital had any type of real security, they would be aware that a second shooter could be possibility and that the emergency exits should be secured too. I would hate being detained by any mallcop too, but it might be for the greater good.

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Originally Posted by crashdown

I disagree with your disagree and raise you another argument....[Beer]

4 minutes is hardly enough time to sort things out.
Active shooter in the front parking lot, sure the back emergency exit make sense. But.... that was how the whole Aurora shooting happened was an open (one way) emergency exit. If the hospital had any type of real security, they would be aware that a second shooter could be possibility and that the emergency exits should be secured too. I would hate being detained by any mallcop too, but it might be for the greater good.

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Ohhh I forgot that "the greater good" trumps everyone's rights now a days.

Ill happily bring the lawsuit if put in that position, its illegal. Plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Colorado_Outback

Ohhh I forgot that "the greater good" trumps everyone's rights now a days.

Ill happily bring the lawsuit if put in that position, its illegal. Plain and simple.

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I am not sure of the legalities of the hospital trying to prevent people from leaving for a few minutes, but if there was some mass exit out of every available door, the hospital wouldn't be able to prevent someone from coming in either (which you said was the owners right). Even if they had the manpower, and the manpower was equipped to let people out while preventing a shooter from coming in, it would take more than 4 minutes to organize and put in place.
I guess my argument is more one of thinking this out, and not so black and white. If you had a child alone in a hospital room and an active shooter was able to get in because the hospital left the doors open knowing that a shooter was outside, you might think differently.

Looks like they legally can prevent leaving:
In hospitals

In US guidelines, occasions for preventing entry into a hospital may include: power failure, earthquake, flooding, fire, bomb threat, hostage crisis and active shooter.^[1][2] Occasions for preventing both entry and exit from a hospital may include: external contamination, civil disturbance and abduction of an infant or child.^[1][2]

Guidelines are not laws.

What if it was a McDonalds? There is a disgruntled hobo out front, I think I saw him put a gun in his coat.. or maybe it was a bottle of piss. LOCKDOWN!

Mass amount of people leaving? 99% of the sheeple out there would be happy that the hospital is illegally detaining them and their "security force" is keeping them "safe".

I'm not going to start a riot, I'm going to leave.

I'm a single dad, my son was hospitalized multiple times in his first year. I don't feel any differently about my previous statements. I'm responsable for his safety and security 100%. Not the hospital, not the police nobody but me. I don't rely on the police for safety/security when I'm out in public why would I rely on some twatwaffle mall cop when I'm in a private building?

I guess I won't subtly make my point which is funny because I don't really disagree with you.

So....
Active shooter/ shooters outside (and most shooters want to get inside the theater, school, church, hospital, whatever), everyone go to each exit and swing the doors open to do what you please..... bedridden terminal cancer patients might even thank you.

And on a lighter note.... what if the hospital was told by the police not to let anyone in or out?