Oregon sending state troopers to investigate firearms purchase denials

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SideShow Bob

But you were either local LE or County Mounty, Not State, correct ? State Troopers are spread way to thin already without having to respond to or follow up on every denial.

---

Perhaps the Politicians in OR felt having a state vs local entity was better. State LE enforcing state / federal law

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by OneGuy67

CSP would not know how to enforce this type of situation nor is it their mandate. They are traffic related enforcers, not state police. Big difference.

---

Exactly. In the more rural areas CSP Troopers will assist local LE with criminal calls. Along the front range they do so mostly during emergencies only. Strictly traffic enforcement. But in answer to your question, yes...city LE.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Zundfolge

I'll be honest, I thought this was standard procedure for failed BGCs everywhere.

---

In 2010, there were 72,000 failed BGCs. The government prosecuted 44.


Joe Biden said in an interview that the government didn't have enough time to chase down this many potential felons.

Seems to me that if they want to do something like this, there needs to be a much better record accounting put in place first....aside from all the other logistical errors which would cause a failure, is mislabling.

I had a buddy a while back that got into a fistfight in public (with another dude), both got arrested charged with misdemeanor, but he got flagged as a domestic violence, and they lost the arrest record....I seem to recall it taking him a few years to clear up, but the point is that in this case he would have been arrested again essentially without cause the first time he found out about the problem.....

The "Culpable mental state" brings concern to me.
LE are now psychoanalytic?

I thought lying on a 4473 was a federal offense? Why are the state police involved? As for the OP.. Enforcing existing laws before making new laws is what everyone is asking for..

sent from a soup can and some string..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rucker61

In 2010, there were 72,000 failed BGCs. The government prosecuted 44.


Joe Biden said in an interview that the government didn't have enough time to chase down this many potential felons.

---

But they sure have enough time to lose e mails and open the floodgates of immigration.....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rucker61

In 2010, there were 72,000 failed BGCs. The government prosecuted 44.

---

.06%

That's not far from having absolutely no value.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gman

.06%

That's not far from having absolutely no value.

---

The value (to them) lies in the uncounted number that did not attempt to buy because they know they'd fail. That is enforced (indirectly) in the FFL compliance checks. They do not have to enforce the form on the buyer side, just on the seller.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BPTactical

The "Culpable mental state" brings concern to me.
LE are now psychoanalytic?

---

Come on... Everyone knows that anyone in law enforcement is automatically was smarter than the rest of us. Plus, they get special training.

[facepalm]




(Sorry, this post isn't meant to belittle or demean or otherwise disrespect anyone in the law enforcement profession. Please don't take it personally.)