Red State Democrats Running from Their Gun Control Votes

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08-13-2014, 14:53
brutal

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Originally Posted by Jim B

You know Udall didn't vote on the mag ban, right? (Not defending him, BTW.)

He didn't say he voted on it. He "pushed" it and is 100% in favor of any and all gun control measures.
08-13-2014, 15:44
Jer

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Originally Posted by brutal

He didn't say he voted on it. He "pushed" it and is 100% in favor of any and all gun control measures.

Bingo. He also didn't speak up against it either, did he?
08-13-2014, 16:07
Jim B

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Originally Posted by Jer

Bingo.

You wrote: "The amount of arrogance displayed to not even feel the need to hear out the people you represent prior to voting..."
08-13-2014, 18:11
def90

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

, I'd have to give it to Udall for his successful attacks against Gardner as against womans reproductive rights commercials. Truth, fiction, or somewhere in between, Udall is painting Gardner very negatively & folks are buying it.

Keep in mind that the average uninformed voter gets their candidate info from tv commercials alone.

Well, I guess Gardner has to accept the fact that if you introduce a "personhood" bill into congress that you are most likely going to lose the female vote..

:banghead:

When are republicans going to learn?

sent from a soup can and some string..
08-13-2014, 18:22
DireWolf

The is has actually been pissing me off quite a bit lately.....whenever the TV is on, almost regardless of channel it seems, I'm just inundated with attack ads against CG followed shortly by glowing praise ads for fuckface Udall (almost ran into that piece of shit at the dragon boat festival, luckily I missed out on that).....

What I don't get is where is the opposing message, even if just about who that fuckhead really is and a simple historical account of some of the shit he's tried to stuff down our throats....
08-13-2014, 20:15
Gman

Love the Udall attack ads stating that CG was being financed by the out-of-state Koch Brothers. Amazing how they don't seem to think it's a problem taking money from out-of-state Bloomberg.

Tons of money is being pumped into the state to keep Udall in office.

I love the Udall ad where he speaks up strongly about reproductive rights. 'Don't ever let them take your rights from you'. I keep thinking how hypocritical his stance is on the 2nd Amendment.

...but it's politics.
08-13-2014, 21:09
jerrymrc

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Originally Posted by def90

Well, I guess Gardner has to accept the fact that if you introduce a "personhood" bill into congress that you are most likely going to lose the female vote..

:banghead:

When are republicans going to learn?

sent from a soup can and some string..

And I will agree. I turn 56 this month and I still do not get this crap. I thought this was decided in 73.[Bang]
08-13-2014, 21:26
sniper7

I really wish the abortion issue could be dropped. I get it is taking a life, but women want that choice. Nobody wants to be told what they can do with their bodies, especially women.
08-14-2014, 09:49
Jer

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Originally Posted by sniper7

I really wish the abortion issue could be dropped. I get it is taking a life, but women want that choice. Nobody wants to be told what they can do with their bodies, especially women.

Agreed. This is one of the big reasons I have a hard time associating with the (R) party these days. The GOP needs to do a massive overhaul & realize they could alienate some older voters but let's be realistic here... they didn't lose the election because they didn't get enough old people anyway.
08-15-2014, 23:09
boomerhc9

https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by sniper7 https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal...post-right.png
I really wish the abortion issue could be dropped. I get it is taking a life, but women want that choice. Nobody wants to be told what they can do with their bodies, especially women.

Agreed. This is one of the big reasons I have a hard time associating with the (R) party these days. The GOP needs to do a massive overhaul & realize they could alienate some older voters but let's be realistic here... they didn't lose the election because they didn't get enough old people anyway.

This is part of the reason I don't talk too much about politics with the guy who works a few spaces away from me, even though we are the only two techs in that part of the building.

He's republican, idealistic and very adamant about no abortion, and all the other stuff. I like the guy to death, and value the fact he has his own opinions, and researches facts himself.

However, I'm 28 and support a womans choice. Does that make me a weakling? A feminist? no, none of that. I'm a modern man, living in a modern society, that is mostly free. Shoot, if I got a chick pregnant, I'd be there to raise a kid and support her. If she wanted an abortion, I'd support that too.

To me, forcing abortion bans, would be like someone growing a parasitic twin on their left ear, when everyone who has seen said twin vomits uncontolably and you decide to get it removed, the doctor telling you it has to stay.

Now just so I'ts not an issue, I'm not saying kids are like parasitic twins. They are both just cell growth.

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