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Originally Posted by sniper7
This. Elections matter.
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Originally Posted by sniper7
This. Elections matter.
Thus causing the pendulum to swing back the other way and the cycle continues. I'd rather have pure gridlock than one-sided partisan bills. What's the best case scenario? R's win super majority and make a law that you can't mess with gun rights. Then things change and the the D's "repeal what the rats did and then cram a shit load of worthless bills down their throats."Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
I'm just looking at the facts from a neutral position. We didn't win back a majority last election even though there were major gains for R's across the country. We couldn't get rid of a spineless governor who waffled on support for the bills because we ran a guy who's nickname was "Both ways Beupreaux". The 2 districts that had recalls go to R's lost to D's in a mid-term election with low turn out for D's. Rapsheet Fields and Aguilar both easily won re-election with about 70%, as did many D's who voted for this crap. Call it district gerrymandering or whatever you want, there are going to be D reps with stupid ideas.
The Sheriff's lawsuit already lost stage 1 with a judge appointed by G.W. How the BGC didn't get attacked as a poll tax, I don't know. How the Heller decision of common use doesn't apply to the hundreds of thousands of mags already here, I don't know. I know states like Montana and Arizona are passing laws to nullify Fed gun laws, but that's not the position we are in.
My thought is it's a fail safe like TABOR, which seems to piss them off, so I like it. Short of there being a test like the citizenship test be required to vote, we're stuck with low-info voters who think this is American Idol and are swayed by emotion vs. reason and real common sense. They've never read either Constitution and are spoon fed the things that are their "rights". Food, housing, internet, college, health care, etc.
How about this thought: we have enough freaking laws already!
Yes. Legislative gridlock is ideal. Wealready have thousands of often conflicting laws and regulations on the books that nobody can be bothered to enforce, except when they selectively want to fuck with a particular person or organization.Quote:
Originally Posted by foxtrot
Absolutely. Make the renewal process just slightly more streamlined than the initial legislative process, as long as the language doesn't change. If someone wants to amend an existing law, then it is treated as new legislation, and must undergo the same scrutiny as any other new legislation. Make the expiration dates fall on odd numbered years, so that hopefully the election cycle will mitigate the passage of partisan garbage like what got shoved down our throats in 2012. Laws that are passed by referendum should be allowed to have longer terms, perhaps 15 or 19 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big E3
Also, all executive orders should expire thirty days after the president who signed it leaves office. If the order is such a good thing congress should have to made it into law, or if it is a necessary order the incoming president has thirty days to continue it.
It's hard to correlate not having an R vote for a bill to "Not having representation," if the officials from either party who pass the law won a popular election. Not having representation was in the declaration because we were being ruled by a king and parliament over seas and paid taxes, but did not get a seat at the table.
Exactly. I find it a little ironic that people who tend to complain about the scope of government in their lives are wanting the government to "make more laws" to deal with things that can already be dealt with.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
We don't need more laws. We need people to get more engaged. It isn't our system that's broken, it's the people. It's always the people.
The problem seems to be that elected officials feel the need to "do something" to justify their parasitic existence. Most of the time, this amounts to unnecessary legislation. Currently, there is no effective way to prune the Kudzu that is our collection of laws and statutes. Sometimes the first step to eliminating a problem is to contain it. Think of legislation as an epidemic or forest fire: While it may be necessary, usually it is in the best interest of the citizens to limit the damage as much as possible.
I've heard people many times equate the effectiveness of the government to how many laws are passed each term. In other words, a legislature that passes 100 new laws is better than one that passes 10.
I completely disagree. IMO, it's the legislatures that past the fewest laws that are the best. I do agree with some others here though, it should be easier the repeal a law than pass a new one.
Hmmm ... sure would be nice if they needed a simple majority to repeal laws but a supermajority (2/3 or 3/4) to pass new ones.