I disagree. End him. Why should we (tax-payers) keep spending our money to keep him alive? He will never be a contributor to our society, so I don't think we should spend money keeping him alive. Quite simply, it's bad economics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
Normally... every other time... I agree with that sentiment. Why waste the taxpayer's money.
But in this case, my initial reaction is to say let him live out his sentence. As Marcus Luttrell said, if he thought he had PTSD before, just wait till the boys in the Texas Penitentiary System find out that he murdered a Texas hero. I'd say it's worth the money.
Because you are going to spend at least as much if not more to "end him." It is "bad economics" either option with this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fentonite
http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view....stionID=001000
What would YOU rather have if you did something horribly wrong? Decades of confinement, guilt, surprise buttsecks, miscellaneous prison fights from zero-liability humans, or a quick end?
I know my answer.
He will live in hell till he actually dies. I have no problem with that as long as he stays in TX.
totally agreed here....Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantar18c
Yes, a needle, the black plaque, something heinous and painful.Quote:
Originally Posted by beast556
Guilt? I'm certain that POS only feels bad about two things and those are getting caught and convicted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
I'm less certain of that myself. He'll have a lot of time to think about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Maybe he is feigning that for teh court, I don't know, but I'm certain of nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman78
I believe, however, he is getting the worst possible punishment, or at least what I would consider worst if I were in that situation.
My comments in no way are intended to take away from Kyle or Littlefield. The whole thing stinks to me. A guy toking & drinking can put multiple shots into two victims, both highly skilled & trained, and then get away with it? Something isn't right here...
Kyle was supposedly shot 6 times and Littlefield 7 times, all from a drug/alchohol induced Routh... Perhaps, but it seems to me that something else was going on that day. Would you just stand by and let your friend get 6 shots put into him?
Dallas medical examiner testimony: http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015...er-trial.html/
Again, I'm not saying anything against the victims. Just wondering if it wasn't someone else (or others) who should have been found guilty?Quote:
Update at 5:48 p.m.: A Dallas County medical examiner testified Thursday that ex-Navy SEAL Chris Kyle had been shot six times, and his friend, Chad Littlefield, had been shot seven times.Chief Dallas County Medical Examiner Jeffrey Barnard was the final witness to testify Thursday. The trial will resume 9 a.m. Friday.
Barnard and prosecutor Jane Starnes went over diagrams before the jury showing the multiple gunshot wounds on Littlefield’s and Kyle’s bodies. Starnes kneeled before Barnard so that he could point to a spot on the top of her head to indicate one of the first gunshot wounds Littlefield suffered.
I clicked the link, kinda interesting. Thanks for posting it. Seems like most (not all) of the opinions stated there were regarding the cost of the initial trial, not necessarily the entire cost of lifelong incarceration, multiple repeated appeals from a bored inmate, etc. There were reasoned arguments on both sides. Maybe my "bad economics" argument doesn't hold water, maybe it does, I'm not convinced either way now. I get your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
Regardless, I still prefer that scumbags like this are put down. Granted, if I was in their shoes, I (like you) would prefer a quick end. But I'm not convinced that psychopaths think like you or me. Many times they have agreed to a life sentence without parole, so that they could avoid the needle. These scumbags are so megalomaniacal that their own existence is all-important. I don't think that they have the capacity for self-reflection or meaningful feelings of guilt, let alone actual rehabilitation.
Besides, prisoners in the US have way too many rights. If we could send him to a Mexican or Turkish prison, that might be suitable. Sure, he's gonna have some miserable times in a US prison, but he's also gonna still be alive. He's gonna watch tv. He might make a friend. He will probably be a pain in the ass to a C.O., just for fun. The thought of him even laughing at a tv show one time, or being even a little bit happy that he gets Cheetos from the commissary, bothers me. He should never again have even the tiniest thing to find pleasure in.
That's just my opinion. We both agree that he's a POS who deserves nothing but badness in his future; we just see the details differently.
Who cares if ending it early is what the convict wants. The only people that want to die are people that have nothing left to live for. Giving that to the convict won't allow them to "win". They're dying, they lose. We can all move on knowing they aren't using our oxygen anymore. Keeping them in jail allows them to breathe, which is more than what the victims are able to do.