EFF to Support Apple in Encryption Battle

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Originally Posted by Uberjager

You have to look at the benefits and costs. A benefit might be uncovering some Intel on a terrorist group. A cost would be precedent being set for companies being forced by court orders to engineer solutions, which could encroach upon the privacy of hundreds of millions of people.

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Easiest thing would be for apple to unlock the phone, if they could without trashing the info. HOWEVER it would be done by a tech on site for that phone only. Demanding / court order etc a company provide encryption bypass for unlimited use. Or any form of app to access phone info easier. No way, no how.


It's interesting the NSA under the guise of the PA justifies certain techniques for "listening in" to any and every form of communication.
YET....................... this terrorist attack happened, as i'm sure others will. So how can the NSA / .Gov justify a program that only works, maybe, some of the time.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

So how can the NSA / .Gov justify a program that only works, maybe, some of the time.

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Because it does work, just not for the stated purpose. [panic]

This is interesting and funny:

Cybersecurity expert John McAfee says he'll hack the phone so that Apple won't have to create a back door. Maybe I was wrong in my earlier post. [Dunno]

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-...or-free-2016-2

So how many more chances out of 10 to get the correct pin number are left? I don't think even John McAfee can "brute force" his way into that phone before it wipes its memory.

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Originally Posted by jmg8550

So how many more chances out of 10 to get the correct pin number are left? I don't think even John McAfee can "brute force" his way into that phone before it wipes its memory.

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John McAfee couldn't "brute force" his way into anything but a cub scout meeting.

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I thought John McAfee was on the run for killing his neighbor over a barking dog?

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Originally Posted by jmg8550

So how many more chances out of 10 to get the correct pin number are left? I don't think even John McAfee can "brute force" his way into that phone before it wipes its memory.

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That's why the FBI was asking Apple to build a special firmware update. To my understanding, they just don't want the phone to auto-wipe and they'd like to submit the PINs automatically rather than have an intern sit there punching 4 digit numbers every 30 seconds.

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Originally Posted by jmg8550

So how many more chances out of 10 to get the correct pin number are left? I don't think even John McAfee can "brute force" his way into that phone before it wipes its memory.

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McAfee isn't planning on a brute force attack, if that's what it's called. Most of his team aren't coders or hackers but rather social engineers, they're going to tear this guys social life apart to figure out his passcode.

Also, this.

http://cdni.wired.co.uk/620x413/k_n/McAfee.jpg

Well this is certainly worth some thought:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi...Facebook+Stout

Is this too crazy? I think it deserves some consideration.

That was exactly my thought. They can already break the encryption, they just want to make it easier/faster in the future.