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That is why Trump is so popular. The public sees him as an alternative to the usual 2 party system of shitty candidates, and they want something different.
There will be people from all walks of life who vote T. There will also be people from the R side who pull the lever for a D, come 11/16. Be it because the D has a vagina OR giving shit away promises . OR a dislike of T
Has no one payed attention to the turnout numbers for the various campaign rallies and primaries?
Republican turnout is breaking all records. Dem turnout is way behind their historic average.
Trump is going to win in a landslide against whomever the Dems put up.
The polls are all over the board. For every poll showing Trump losing, I'll show you one for Trump dominating.
Look at the turnout for the rallies and be thankful the silent majority has had enough and is engaged this season.
ETA: Scott Baio just recently endorsed Trump - Game over! Trump wins!
Trump is like the GOP's Obama, even though the GOP may not even want him.
Meaning that people are excited to vote for him because he's not the next in line of career politicians, regardless of if he should actually get the job or not.
Have you heard how many Dems are crossing over to vote for trump? I don't know the numbers, but apparently it's enuf to affect the outcome in close, contested states. Any concern they are gaming the system to pick Hillary's competition?Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
No concern here. I believe most Dems who cross over are in favor of Trump over Hillary, and also enjoy poking the GOPe. Hillary has the support of the Dem elite, not the Dem populous.Quote:
Originally Posted by sroz
The GOPe candidate supporters are the ones trying to screw Trump by crossing over and pooling their votes for state specific GOPe candidates.
I also think that like Obama he's a bit of a cipher ... and people are projecting on him what they want him to be, not what he really is (for both good and ill).Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
About the only faith I have at the moment is this... My wife's uber liberal, California valley girl step mom (super nice lady otherwise), has already said she is likely staying home this year, because Hillary is a criminal and can't be trusted (her own words), and she spent WAY too much money sending her two daughters to college, for Bernie to give any handouts. I wouldn't count on the majority of Dem's thinking the same way, but it gives a tiny sliver of hope.
Bernie has been a sparring partner for HRC. Bernie is the warm-up for HRC's audience before the general. I have a better chance of being named the next Queen of England before Bernie running as an independent this November.
The real campaign doesn't actually begin until the conventions end. At that point, either the GOP will shred itself into destruction, insuring it will lose in November by contradicting the majority of GOP voters by selecting someone other than Trump as the nominee, or Trump will become the biggest target of every media outlet and celebrity within the progressive movement. After the convention, HRC will adopt just about every position Bernie was successful with during the primaries. She will wait for Trump to attack her, which he will do, and it will play in the media as an attack by a white man on a strong woman who is fighting for the non-white, and down trodden, salt of the earth. Trump will be entertaining and can hope for 40 to 45% unless he can get younger voters and minorities to stay home or vote for him. HRC can expect to 45% of the vote just by being the Democratic nominee. If one of the GOP candidates runs as an independent, HRC wins in a walk off. Unless HRC is indicted (a long shot) she will likely take all of the states Obama carried in 2012, and possibly pick up a few more besides. She won't carry 50 states, but she is likely to win the electoral vote by a significant margin.
Ask youself this question; How many Bernie supporters are willing to vote for Trump rather than HRC? Then ask yourself; How many of Bush, Kasich, Rubio, Cruz, Carson, Firorina, etc... supporters willing to vote for HRC, or not going to vote at all?
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I agree Hillary has the support of Dem elite and that the Rockefeller Republicans are trying to do anything they can to stop Trump, much as the establishment tried to freeze young TR. However, I think you underestimate the level of dirty tricks being played in the crossover votes. I'm certain there is an underground effort trying to undermine and destroy the GOP by either taking over the party from within the way Obama took over the Dems or by creating an inner revolt as the cipher loses.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
I don't believe Trump is even moderately conservative. On the other hand, he is hugely self-interested and despite being somewhat authoritarian in his approach, he's far less totalitarian than Hillary or Bernie would be. I don't want him as the nominee but I will support him if he gets the nod just as I supported W and his father, and I will hope we can beat off the numbskulls trying to destroy the GOP from within (that includes both establishment and crossovers).
That seems pretty much spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone