The Untold History of School

There is discussion in the interview about how it all looks like a big conspiracy theory, and if you go around stating relevant facts it makes you look like a tinfoil hat wearing boob, even though it's all true. As usual, the truth is a bit more nuanced with concern to people's intentions.

Did anyone ever listen to this? It seemed like many of you were passingly familiar with the history and I was looking forward to some interesting discussion.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Did anyone ever listen to this? It seemed like many of you were passingly familiar with the history and I was looking forward to some interesting discussion.

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Haven't had time. My wife intends to listen to it, but she is already very familiar with Gatto's ideas.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Did anyone ever listen to this? It seemed like many of you were passingly familiar with the history and I was looking forward to some interesting discussion.

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I skipped through the first interview and still haven't had time to fully listen/pay attention.

My wife's a teacher. Has taught at both public and private schools. I'll see if I can get her to listen to it and give comments, but I doubt it.

I often forget that not everyone spends more time driving than working like I do.

Couple of whiny millennials. Complaining, but offering no solutions. They suggested they are plenty of expert teachers on YouTube. [Roll1] 29 y/o guy with a 1 y/o kid who thinks he will reinvent the wheel of child rearing. Classic...

Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I awarded you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

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Originally Posted by GilpinGuy

I'll be checking these out for sure. Thanks for the links.

I've heard/read that we've used the same Prussian model - for 200 years. Seems like we could have improved on things a little. With online learning, schools will have some serious competition in the years to come.

On another note, I was talking to a rather left leaning acquaintance the other day who told me that he though $15k a year per high school kid was a good deal for taxpayers. These people really believe this. Amazing .

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I would argue that we did well using the Prussian model for a hundred years but have been doing rather poorly ever since self-appointed and self-promoted "education specialists" thought they could do better and started changing how we educated kids. I would advocate a return to the classical education of the late 19th or early 20th century over the bilge being promoted by "education professionals". If they have a Master's or Doctorate in "Education", they probably don't know how to teach.

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Originally Posted by Delfuego

Couple of whiny millennials. Complaining, but offering no solutions. They suggested they are plenty of expert teachers on YouTube. [Roll1] 29 y/o guy with a 1 y/o kid who thinks he will reinvent the wheel of child rearing. Classic...

Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I awarded you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

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Nice strawman deflection attempt, but if they are discussing Gatto's books and ideas it's simply incorrect to cast them off with mere hand waving. Perhaps you'll try table pounding next?