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Yup, pretty much. The next economic collapse could bring people together if enough people are convinced that it was the government's fault. However, I don't think that's going to happen at all. For the same reasons that Trump was elected, a socialist of some flavor will be elected and things will get much, much worse. sad face.Quote:
Originally Posted by izzy
That's about the truth. I should have lowered my finger pointing to illegal/unconstitutional behavior, rather than treasonous behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
A lot of people confuse sedition with treason too. Treason is a whole other ball park and it's why the death penalty is a potential sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Either way, nothing to justify Trump's death sentence has been proved with anything other than Fusion GPS/DNC/Clinton FakeNews documents. Nunes even got the FISA warrant app released (although redacted) and shows the fake Steele Dossier was the only exhibit.
These people are nutters and are going to burn down the country because they lost a rigged election.
Russia didn’t cause me to vote for Trump...Hillary caused me to vote for Trump. And I don’t even like Trump.
I used to think this was true but I don't any more. Most liberals I talk to want open borders (without calling it such of course), class warfare (punish businesses through regulation, tax the "rich" to pay for free healthcare and college tuition), gun bans, and no restrictions on abortion. Even on things that should be a no-brainer like clean water and good schools for our kids R and D disagree. D not only want clean water but to save every little useless species of guppy that is ever so slightly different from the guppies a few miles down. D want to abolish charter schools because they "rob" money from public schools. The only people I talk to who I could consider middle of the road are the politically-disconnected, as in, "I couldn't care less about politics, hey let's play xbox".Quote:
Originally Posted by izzy
So you openly admit to being a Nazi on the internet then?Quote:
Originally Posted by WETWRKS
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If I were someone hell bent on saving every single species of animal, I'd suggest that if we don't need every species of guppy, that we don't need every different model of handgun. Is it comparable? Not really. It does open conversation though.
Agreed. I don't think a true conservative has anything in common (in terms of the direction in which the country is taken) with a true progressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumline
Even on other levels...conservatives are generally of the live and let live mentality. Progressives are of the live like I do, or how I want you to, or else I will attempt to force you to through one means or another, mentality.
Not saying there aren't differences that just plain old won't be agreed on. In general though there seem to be two extremes that are making things look way further apart than they actually are. Saying rationally that you want thing X or thing Y and talking about it is very different than you're on the other side and I must physically attack you. It's natural to compartmentalize people into nice little segments but people on either side are far more complex than that. It's really difficult to say all R's or all D's want some list of things. I know plenty of Ds who love firearms for instance and quite a few Rs who care very strongly about conserving all the useless species of guppy as you put it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumline
In general a lot of the things the sides argue about are a sign of just how successful our society has become. You think the original settlers of our country, maybe even 150 years back, were thriving enough to even consider half this garbage? I'm pretty sure most families in war torn 3rd world countries don't give a damn about guppies or charter schools.
It seems like they don't teach civics in public schools anymore.