Polis recall

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Originally Posted by rondog

That's what they "said", but I can't believe the target number wasn't hit.

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Colorado's population is about 5.6 million. 22% are under age 18.

That makes 4.36 million adults, including illegals, liberals, college students, and people who don't give a shit.

Out of those,

3.387 million are registered, active voters.

Of those, 990,900 are registered, active republicans. 1.27 million are unaffiliated.

You're not going to find a DEM to sign. And at least 50% - more than 50% actually - of unaffiliated people are not going to sign being they are very left leaning.

That leaves you with about 1,600,000 possible people who could sign a recall petition. A percentage of those aren't offended enough to do it, a percentage of those unaffiliates who though they are right leaning, aren't interested in recalling, a percentage is too old to get out of the house or to know how to find a spot, a percentage is too busy to be able to do it; a percentage of even the republicans are left leaning, and a percentage is moving away or has other reasons not to care, a sizable portion is defeatist, coupled with poor advertisement, poor organization, unknown deadlines and the like.

The realistic pool is probably less than 1.2 Million people who "could" have signed it. Needing 50% of every possible signer in the entire state to sign a petition to get something done is a pretty much an impossibility.

I'm very surprised they got as many signatures as they did but I knew it would fail.

You need 600,000 thousand registered voters to successfully recall.

It was a long shot to begin with so I'm not all that surprised.


That said, now "they" have a nice enemies list [tinhat]

Not surprised at all.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

It was a long shot to begin with so I'm not all that surprised.


That said, now "they" have a nice enemies list [tinhat]

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Do they? If the target number of signatures is not reached in the allotted time, are the petitioners required to turn over the signature sheets they did compile?

Sad to hear this didn't get anywhere.

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Do they? If the target number of signatures is not reached in the allotted time, are the petitioners required to turn over the signature sheets they did compile?

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I think they may not be required to turn in the signatures since they knew they would fall way short (so basically they'll act as though they collected 0 signatures). So we may be fine. The law says that any voter who signs a recall petition cannot sign another recall petition for the same elected official during their term in office, so obviously that would mean that the state had a list of signators.

Also there is a theory that the organizers were actually Democrats because now we can't recall Polis ever in the future no matter what he does since the majority of people that would be interested in recalling him have already signed a recall petition.

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Originally Posted by whitewalrus

Sad to hear this didn't get anywhere.

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I dunno ... the truth is Polis hasn't really done anything recall worthy...yet, so if it had been successful you can bet that any Republican official in the state higher than dog catcher would be recalled the instant they did anything remotely Republican ... so it might be best not to go down this road.

Complete clown show.

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I think they may not be required to turn in the signatures since they knew they would fall way short (so basically they'll act as though they collected 0 signatures). So we may be fine. The law says that any voter who signs a recall petition cannot sign another recall petition for the same elected official during their term in office, so obviously that would mean that the state had a list of signators.

Also there is a theory that the organizers were actually Democrats because now we can't recall Polis ever in the future no matter what he does since the majority of people that would be interested in recalling him have already signed a recall petition.

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It's my understanding that the goal fell far short on number of signatures needed, so they weren't turned in to be counted. Since they weren't turned in, it's as if basically the recall effort never happened, so if someone were to start another recall, if you signed this last one, you would be allowed to sign the next one.

Denver Post (9-27-19)

The Official Recall of Colorado Gov. Jared Polis group — which didn’t participate in the recent failed recall attempt by two other groups — has given $11,000 of the money it raised for the effort as gifts to staffers.

According to online campaign finance records filed with the Secretary of State’s Office, committee manager Shane Donnelley got $5,000 as a “thank you for caring about Colorado” gift, and secretary Lisa Pascoe and Weld County lead Rene McGill both received $3,000.

“Whether you call it a grift or a gift, this is just the latest in a string of events that show these recalls are being driven by scammers who are looking out for their own interests at the expense of unwitting voters,” said Curtis Hubbard, the spokesman for the Democratic group working against the recalls, Democracy First.

The recall group did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

It’s not the first time the group has come under scrutiny for its spending.

The group’s chair, Juli-Andra Fuentes, was questioned about a nearly $30,000 donation to an independent expenditure committee she founded called Colorado for Trump earlier this month. The Trump campaign told 9NEWS that Fuentes’ group wasn’t affiliated with the campaign, and it might take action over the misleading name.

And a donor named Starle Brethauer filed a campaign finance complaint against the Official Recall of Colorado Gov. Jared Polis group in August, saying she felt misled.

“I donated to this recall to get it going and now I understand they are not going to to be doing the recall,” wrote Brethauer, of Kersey. “I feel like I had been lied to and feel I no longer want to support this group in any way.”

The Secretary of State’s Office dismissed Brethauer’s claim later that month, saying the laws in Colorado don’t prevent an issue committee from deciding not to pursue a recall.

What could potentially land the group in trouble, however, is how it spent the money it didn’t use on the recall effort. The Secretary of State’s Office can’t say whether any of these bonuses or charitable donations were legal or illegal without an investigation.

The group donated $3,000 to a charity that works with homeless veterans called Final Salute, $2,000 to the Weld County Boy Scouts of America Troop 4 and $1,000 to the Boys and Girls Club of Weld County.