50 guns, 3,000 rounds, truck and gun safe stolen in Arapahoe County

3000 rounds..... Those are Rookie numbers.....

All kidding aside, motivated thieves will steal whatever they want regardless of deterrents. This is why we have insurance. This reminds me that I need to update my polices with the last few Pew acquisitions over the year so they can be properly covered. Hopefully all of you have sufficient documentation of your pew positions logged with your insurance company so that it can be covered when or if a total loss event happens.

Everyone here needs to ask themselves honestly if their insurance coverage would fully cover their belongings if their house burned to the ground and it was a total loss scenario. If its not identified, appraised and documented the insurance company can easily tell you to stick it when a total loss event happens.

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Originally Posted by CHA-LEE

Everyone here needs to ask themselves honestly if their insurance coverage would fully cover their belongings if their house burned to the ground and it was a total loss scenario.

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Some policies start at $2500 for firearms and ammo, most are $5000. It is also important to know if it is replacement cost or actual cash value.

If you have some money tired up in this hobby it is a good idea to have your agent review your coverages.

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Originally Posted by eddiememphis

Some policies start at $2500 for firearms and ammo, most are $5000. It is also important to know if it is replacement cost or actual cash value.

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Most are $2500 in the categories of firearms, cameras, computers, tools. That is the max you will get even if you don't hit your personal property max. Collectables, jewelry also have max limits. Some policies have them listed in individual categories, but with another max in aggregate.

If you belong to the NRA, there is a small amount, depending on when you joined, etc. That can be 5K or 10K. Another reason to consider optics with a no questions asked lifetime warranty, as well as buying from Brownells Edge that has a lifetime, no questions asked warranty.

Then there are riders, and usually, from your homeowners policy, it's a lot. There are a few specialty insurers for jewelry and firearms that are worth a check.

I will just leave this here...

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado...00-pound-safe/

The victim seems a bit clueless to what has been happening in today's world.

Not a random theft. Someone knew they had guns and were out of town. Nice sign on the wall behind the reporter, but the thieves were too busy thieving to pay it much attention.

Another oddity is that around 1:34 they show a neighbor's house very close by. Even if it was the middle of the night they should have heard the noise that would have likely happened. I grew up in a rural area such as that and would have been awakened by that much noise close by.

If the picture of the safe is the actual safe stolen then the stupid fucks deserve it stolen.
Sitting on skids about 5 inches above the floor- check!
Not bolted down- check!
In a ground level enclosure- check!
In a ground level enclosure with tools readily available- check!
In a ground level enclosure with a vehicle capable of easily hauling a large, heavy safe-check!
In a ground level enclosure with minimal security-check!

The dumbasses did most of the work for the thieves.[fail]

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Originally Posted by MarkCO

A pro can get into any commercial "gun/fire" safe in under 30 minutes.

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Especially in a rural shop with tools laying around, anyone can be into a standard commercial "gun safe" in SIGNIFICANTLY less than 30 minutes. Any of the RSC's available from big box stores and marketed as a "fire safe" are only good for about 3-5 minutes with a good sawzall.

If you want real security, you are talking TL-15, TL-30, TLTR, etc... These are not RSC's (Residential Security Container). These are real safes. They start at 3x the weight of a usual "gun safe" and go up from there. Instead of being measured in sheet metal gauges, they are measured in inche(s) of steel for wall and door thickness.

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Originally Posted by buffalobo

Sounds like inside job with planning.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

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This.

Insurance fraud?
Attempted end run around ATF or similar?

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Originally Posted by Grant H.

Especially in a rural shop with tools laying around, anyone can be into a standard commercial "gun safe" in SIGNIFICANTLY less than 30 minutes. Any of the RSC's available from big box stores and marketed as a "fire safe" are only good for about 3-5 minutes with a good sawzall.

If you want real security, you are talking TL-15, TL-30, TLTR, etc... These are not RSC's (Residential Security Container). These are real safes. They start at 3x the weight of a usual "gun safe" and go up from there. Instead of being measured in sheet metal gauges, they are measured in inche(s) of steel for wall and door thickness.



This.

Insurance fraud?
Attempted end run around ATF or similar?

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More likely douchy friend or family member with evil intent. Even a stranger who might have inadvertently got a look in shop and recognized opportunity.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

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Originally Posted by .455_Hunter

I will just leave this here...

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado...00-pound-safe/

The victim seems a bit clueless to what has been happening in today's world.

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As does the reporter (and possibly the owner) about trucks.

"A Dodge Ram 2016." and "flatbed pickup" LOL So much wrong to unpack there.

Looked like a RAM 4500/5500.