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Originally Posted by SA Friday

IME, most cops don't have a clue about guns other than the one they carry and then limited knowledge of that. Secondly, most cops don't come from a gun culture background.

I wouldn't put too much stock in them questioning you in this situation. A few questions and have a nice day is better than no questions and having a bad day.

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You're probably right. I didn't mean to come off sounding anti-cop. They just took the rifle from me for about ten minutes while they checked my ID and ran it through. They were polite and they never drew their weapons or cuffed me or anything. I was polite to them as well. I figured they were just doing thier job.

Even a light vest over that shotgun would cover most of it and he probably wouldn't get called on. However, then it would be concealed. I'd say to break it down and put it into a tennis bag. Then no one would even think twice.

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Originally Posted by Stuart

I'd say to break it down and put it into a tennis bag.

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Would that be considered concealed? or just vehicle carry?

I don't know, but $10 says you wouldn't even have to find out.

That is a picture of what freedom looks like. Let's make sure it stays that way.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Legal or not, bad idea IMO. Probably 100% of the reason for it is machoism. IF we actually want to resolve the situation and improve our rights.

Lets ignore the "Well its my god given right" argument, and SEE what it actually does to us.

Place yourself in the seat of the average soccer sally mom. She isn't a liberal, didn't vote for Obama, and although she doesn't hate firearms, she really doesn't like them but hasn't had the opportunity to really develop much of a steadfast opinion. She has never been shooting. She is coming home after picking up her two kids from middle school. Now, you send one macho macho motorcycle rider all around her van with a shotgun and ammo on his back as he rides in the next lane, and with her back-of-the-mind concern for things like "school shootings" and "gangs", what exactly is she going to think? She is going to assume it's illegal. Assuming it's illegal... she is going to assume there is some bad intent, and what is the next action?

A lot of people are very naive thinking the display of firearms in that manner only freaks out the hardcore liberal. I've seen conservative women that tolerate firearm ownership freak out about open carry, thinking it's illegal, guy must be trouble etc.

What is she going to do?

What is she going to do after the person does not get into any trouble and she finds out that it's legal?

It's shit like this that can turn people in the middle into lifelong, hardcore opposition. Saying it's your right will not secure that right. If you want to maintain that right, we first have to win the PR war. I'd rather the majority of the public have their first exposure to firearms in a controlled setting. Not in a setting that causes them to shit themselves.

In this instance, Soccer Sally will probably continue to view it as a threat for life regardless of any resolution - guy could be the minister of a church going to the range, it wouldn't matter. Now, she is joining MMM and asking them to lobby for her.. for "her children". Also, as her kids get a little older, guess who will influence them considerably regarding firearms?

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I understand your point, but at the same time maybe the guy had to just transport his gear. I doubt he was breaking the law in his respective state. How do we not know soccer mom didn't see 20 cars go by and give this guy a big thumbs up? How do we know soccer mom didn't give the guy a thumbs up? I would have. That's good PR right there. It also lends itself to normality and realization that WE DO have the ultimate form of equality at our disposal. The right to keep and bear arms. Coming from the southwest, this is somewhat normal behavior, and I believe should be cultivated as such. I applaud this citizen's actions. Again, I do understand your points as well, someone might get all freaked out.

OK, I think it's a stupid idea too, but how many of you that think it's a bad idea are OK with open carrying a handgun? Which I personally think is also a stupid idea. Rights or no rights, I don't want to draw attention to myself and my weapons, and I can't fathom why some people do.

And, the way I understand Colorado law, carrying that shotgun on the bike should be legal in CO, as long as the chamber's unloaded, right? Still ain't real bright, IMO.

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Originally Posted by rondog

OK, I think it's a stupid idea too, but how many of you that think it's a bad idea are OK with open carrying a handgun? Which I personally think is also a stupid idea. Rights or no rights, I don't want to draw attention to myself and my weapons, and I can't fathom why some people do.

And, the way I understand Colorado law, carrying that shotgun on the bike should be legal in CO, as long as the chamber's unloaded, right? Still ain't real bright, IMO.

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I don't open or conceal carry. I just like the thought that we still can.

Awesome is the last thing that comes to mind when I see these attention whores...