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Originally Posted by OgenRwot
That's a BIG -1
Under no circumstances would Hick be better. You have lost your mind!
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Originally Posted by OgenRwot
That's a BIG -1
Under no circumstances would Hick be better. You have lost your mind!
I'm sure I'll get flamed for it, but meh, don't really care. I think both Maes and Tancredo are douchebags. And I like Hickenlooper. I think he's done a good job in Denver, and I know quite a few conservatives that like him.
The problem, which he hasn't had to deal with as a mayor, is that at a governor level, party trumps person, so he will have to align more with the democrats. And I hate almost everyone in political power currently for the most part (including all dems and republicans, I don't like one party more than the other)...
I won't ever vote blindly on the side of one party "just because..."
Just my .02. Don't really care to discuss further, just wanted to put in my view. Cheers
Take a look at Carter for example. The guy sucked as President and because of him we had 12 years of Republicans. Ronald Reagan was because of Jimmy Carter. Barack Obama is because of George W Bush. My point is this, you get a whack job in there like Tancredo or a retard like Maes it's going to hurt conservatives at all levels of politics for years to come. So no, I haven't lost my mind. Having ONE Democrat that isn't bat shit crazy leftist in office for four years with at least a GOP controlled house, if not senate, is better than making all Republicans look nuts for the foreseeable future. You gotta look beyond just the next few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldrwl
Maes did not overpay his reimbursements, he didnt do them in a timely manner since his financial person slacked off and quit. So his daughter took over, and it took her a bit to get the hang of things, hence the delay, and seeming over payed on reimbursements. He paid the fine, to be able to have the campaign move on, not hung up in court playing games (what McInnis was hoping for). How does he make 19k and make a house payment? Easy, its called pulling from personal savings. I've owned my own business for 11 years. Ive had 4 months go by, literally loosing money each month from buying more inventory than selling. I do it to stock up for the busier time. So I waive a paycheck, so I can actually sell product when the demand is there, I can keep up! One of the downsides of owning the business. Yet I still pay my bills, mortgage etc. Tom is an overly sensitive, one issue guy. He's still whining about McInnis being picked over him by the GOP, so he convinces another party to take him, and toss their canidate. He's so busy pissing where he sleeps, ie trashing on the conservatives, all he's doing is making it easier for Hickenlooper to win. But Tom in his arrogance actually thinks his 5 year old behavior will help him win! Maes winning the primaries just shows how stupid the GOP has gotten over the years. They've long since forgotten what they are supposed to be doing, governing, they're just sitting back playing politics. EVERYONE is sick of this game, dems and GOP. Why do you think independants/outsiders are winning all over the country? The GOP establishment should take the results, not just Maes, as a wake up call. Quit playing games, and start doing what's right. They've had power for so long, they forgot what to do with it! How do you think Obama is able to do what he is doing so fast, and so drastically? Because the GOP has been goofing off for so long, this is business as usual, just heading in the other direction, and rapidly since the Dems control prez, house, and congress! Get the establishment, out-for-themselves, backdoor dealing politicians OUT, and get in some real people, and get some term limits on EVERY position, so we dont have career politicians!
Quite the rant Brian. I cut it down to my issue with Maes. You say his savings is what he was using to pay his bills during those lean times, when his company wasn't making money. Any proof of that? His history shows he didn't come from money and his biography doesn't indicate any really high paying jobs where he could sock away a couple hundred thousand in savings. Taking from a 401(k) would be extrememly poor money management, if he had that.Quote:
Originally Posted by brianakell
From his website:
"Career
Dan was able to quickly develop relationships and trust by keeping his word and delivering on his commitments. His natural leadership always led him to management roles and ultimately he earned part of a business through sweat equity. He has never looked back. Dan and his partners sold a telecommunications franchise in 1997. He then started and sold a credit reporting agency between 2005 and 2009 with the goal of public service upon its completion."
Pretty flippin' thin on the details. You'd think he'd want to shout from the rooftops his experience and why he is the best candidate in regards to finances, money management, etc. Instead, he says he is a successful small business owner. Really?
So, a quick sum of the funds. Mortgage, $39,600/yr. His house is twice the size of mine, so electric/gas $4,000 a year. Eat conservatively? $4,000 a year, but probably closer to $6,000. Gas/insurance on his vehicles? Say $3,000 a year. Kids? One daughter just graduated from college (school bills?), one daughter is 15 (teenaged daughter are expensive!) and a boy age 7. Kids are expensive, with school costs, extracurricular activities, clothes, tuition, etc. Don't forget business expenses to woo clients. I'm not even touching vacations, and a ton of other, everyday, normal expenses we all have to dish out for daily living.
What I'm saying is, I don't buy his $19,000 year and withdrawal from savings as his means of support. He refuses to release the actual tax returns citing personal privacy for his wife. What is there to hide?
Additionally, he has shown a huge ignorance to how government operates and makes blanket statements that he couldn't do as governor. He doesn't seem to grasp what powers the governor has and doesn't have. His points of action he states are juvenile at best.
1.Increase efficiencies in the area of FTE (Full Time Employee) counts thus reducing the size of state government freeing up funds for other priorities. Governor can't fire anyone, except his own staff. Could eliminate director positions, but that would be asinine.
2.Identify areas for program consolidation or elimination including positions that duplicate the purpose of an executives responsibility.
3.Reverse the executive orders that created the state employees union, and funding for Planned Parenthood. The state employees union has no power as there isn't any ability to negotiate with the state. It is a consolodated voice for a bunch of people, not unlike the FOP for the state troopers. Get rid of it; big deal. Cancel funding for a program that puts some birth control into the hands of girls who are going to have sex with or without it. Smart.
4.Restructure the content of the COGCC and work toward a more energy friendly regulatory environment in order to drive energy severance tax revenue to its highest in the state’s history while encouraging new energy models. Wow! What a bunch of crap!
5.Give tax incentives to all small businesses that hire at least 1 new employee in 2011. Nice, feel good stuff.
6.Support choice in education including home, charter, public and private options. Work for a tax credit for those who choose home or private schools. Take money away from the already hurting school districts...
7.I will defend the Tax Payers Bill of Rights (TABOR) and work aggressively to reverse any legislation implemented by
Ritter Administration that violates TABOR. (i.e. Faster Legislation, property tax mill levy freeze, dirty dozen tax exemptions) Governor can't do anything on these except sign legislation brought to him by the Senate and House. He'll have to find someone to carry the bill in both houses.8.Reduce the personal income tax to a level of 4.5% by 2012 Again, not a power the governor has.
9.5% unemployment rate by the end of 2013. Wishful thinking and hoping.
10.Initiate a new era of stricter enforcement of existing legislation and state laws including those covering vehicle registration, drivers licenses, DUI, and illegal immigration. Any meat to this? What are his plans?
11.Limit new legislation to 3 bills per member of the assembly. Once again, not a power the governor has.
12.Facilitate mutually beneficial resolution between our states strong military economy and private property owners in Pinon Canyon Area.
Brian, the only thing I agree with you on is that the GOP sat on its laurels and didn't capitalize when public opinion turned on the Democrats. They could have found young, new, energetic people to run for elected offices, and instead, gave us re-treads because they had been faithful to the party and "it was their time".
Has anyone ever considered that his wife has a great paying job?
She's a stay-at-home mom. No job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
Sounds like a brothel to me.
The guy got busted and fined for fuzzy numbers on "travel". He was saying he was traveling on the campaign to pay his bills. Also, remember the mayor that loaned him a few hundred bucks for his mortgage that showed up on his donor list?
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Originally Posted by OgenRwot
The issue with that was, Poundstone DIDN'T show up on the list. She told Peter Boyles that and Maes then did a dance. The amount exceeded the legal allowable amount someone could contribute and being given money under the table is unethical.