This country is so done.

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Originally Posted by TS12000

I think that is the root of the problem. As you age you tend to develop a political persona. As such you learn what rights you like and what rights you could do away with or not care if they were infringed upon (most people). What most in this country don't realize is that all of our rights and freedoms are tied together and an attack on one is an attack on them all.

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Now I have had people call me an old fart before but never in such an eloquent way....


[Beer]

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Originally Posted by 2ndChildhood

Some of the lies that are widely believed:
-Technology will be able to replace petroleum.

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This IS true. Name one natural resource that we've ever run out of, without learning to use a different resource in it's place, usually a better one. Go back to the beginning of time if you want to.

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Originally Posted by Stuart

This IS true. Name one natural resource that we've ever run out of, without learning to use a different resource in it's place, usually a better one. Go back to the beginning of time if you want to.

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I think maybe you are the only one here that old [ROFL2]

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

The problem exactly- you feel is is acceptable to be subjected to a random search although you have commited no crime.
If this is OK with you that is your choice.
But dont even think about bitching when your 1st Admendment rights or 2cnd Admendment rights are compromised and infringed upon further.
Or any of our God given rights for that matter.
[Bang]

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While I agree with much of the sentiments here, there is no Right to go to an Av's game. So you have no right to not be searched at random. Same thing with flying. My problem is that the TSA shouldn't be doing the screening, the airlines should.

as the father of three young girls, there is no reason for anyone to be screening them naked or checking their underwear for any reason I dont care who they work for.

the metal detecting wand or using the naked screener that just shows a generic avatar should be enough.

i read an article this morning about a woman that was pulled aside because she was on her period and the TSA had to inspect her pad. careful that period might be an explosive.

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Originally Posted by Birddog1911

While I agree with much of the sentiments here, there is no Right to go to an Av's game. So you have no right to not be searched at random. Same thing with flying. My problem is that the TSA shouldn't be doing the screening, the airlines should.

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X2 and is why I don't go to sporting events and the like, that plus thousands of mostly rude folk, crammed into one space isn't real appealing to me.

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Originally Posted by hurley842002

X2 and is why I don't go to sporting events and the like, that plus thousands of mostly rude folk, crammed into one space isn't real appealing to me.

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^This
Not to mention the 100.00 ticket, 20.00 parking, 8.00 beer and nasty food.
And the mostly rude folk.

^ and worst of all its the AV's (gross)

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Originally Posted by Stuart

This IS true. Name one natural resource that we've ever run out of, without learning to use a different resource in it's place, usually a better one. Go back to the beginning of time if you want to.

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Stuart, I hope you are right because the pain level if this is false would be pretty high.
Oil has been a huge resource for humanity, yielding 200 times the energy it takes to recover it. That ratio is creeping down now that we've skimmed off the cream. Many of the alternatives out there don't have anywhere near that favorable of a ratio. I've heard that uranium is a rapidly declining resource as well. What we need is nuclear fusion.

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

^This
Not to mention the 100.00 ticket, 20.00 parking, 8.00 beer and nasty food.
And the mostly rude folk.

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Lot's of ammo can be bought with that money.