"I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong."

Yeah, that's the problem.

The right for one is the wrong for another.

Isaiah 5:20

2 Timothy 3:1-7

Forgive the religiousness but it really fits.

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Originally Posted by jim

What does illegal have to do with stopping a woman from being raped? I hear a woman screaming for help, the last thing on my agenda at that time is, are they a citizen of the US.
As a human being i could not live with myself knowing i ignored a cry for help, could you?

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That question was directed a mcantar, because I've asked him a similar question before about defending the life of an illegal, and he said that if he knew for sure that the person was illegal, he wouldn't do anything to assist them.



I'm not sure why people insist on breaking this down to the perception of good or evil. In my opinion, that doesn't have anything to do with the quote. It is easiest for me to decide, when taken at face value. "I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong."

Would you help your brother rob a bank?

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Originally Posted by Irving

Would you help your brother rob a bank?

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No.

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Originally Posted by Irving

If an illegal alien approached you and asked for your help to stop three guys raping his illegal wife in an alley; would you or wouldn't you?

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I would beat the shit out of the rapists and then have the illegals deported.

Great answer.

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Originally Posted by Irving

I'm not sure if that really fits the scope of the quote mcantar.

I was asking more along the lines of the big picture.

If an illegal alien approached you and asked for your help to stop three guys raping his illegal wife in an alley; would you or wouldn't you?

**I only used an illegal because I don't know enough about you to know who you would not normally team up with. I didn't want this to necessarily be political or otherwise like the rest of the topics that the board seems to constantly rehash over and over. I couldn't really come up with a better example to explain how I interpreted the quote at this time.**

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Of course you would have to stop the rape, she might get pregnant and drop an anchor baby that let's her stay.

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Originally Posted by Irving

I'm not sure if that really fits the scope of the quote mcantar.

I was asking more along the lines of the big picture.

If an illegal alien approached you and asked for your help to stop three guys raping his illegal wife in an alley; would you or wouldn't you?

**I only used an illegal because I don't know enough about you to know who you would not normally team up with. I didn't want this to necessarily be political or otherwise like the rest of the topics that the board seems to constantly rehash over and over. I couldn't really come up with a better example to explain how I interpreted the quote at this time.**

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Sorry, I forgot about this thread. The following quotes pretty much sum up my thoughts on this, with the exception of "beat the shit out of the rapist" (I'd be a little more aggressive in my response).

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Originally Posted by spyder

I would beat the shit out of the rapists and then have the illegals deported.

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Originally Posted by rockhound

Of course you would have to stop the rape, she might get pregnant and drop an anchor baby that let's her stay.

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Originally Posted by Irving

That question was directed a mcantar, because I've asked him a similar question before about defending the life of an illegal, and he said that if he knew for sure that the person was illegal, he wouldn't do anything to assist them.



I'm not sure why people insist on breaking this down to the perception of good or evil. In my opinion, that doesn't have anything to do with the quote. It is easiest for me to decide, when taken at face value. "I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong."

Would you help your brother rob a bank?

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If someone was in danger and I was absolutely 100% positive that they were illegal, I'd be pretty slow to react to the situation. Like if Paco Taco was yelling for help, drowning in the Rio Grande while trying to swim across... "Sure, you stay right there, I'll find a life vest to throw you as soon as I go get some lunch."

If we're talking strictly face value, then no, I have to disagree with that quote.

I would say that at face value I agree with the quote, but it is not all encompassing. Just because I agree with the quote, doesn't mean that I'd have to ALWAYS unite with anyone to do good. Would I help my enemy open a fire hydrant to save a burning orphanage? Sure.

Would I tutor my enemy's kid so he could pass his English test next week? Nope, screw 'em. Thanks for coming back here.

I agree with your first sentence there... which is why I disagree with the quote. The way I read it, its all-encompasing, and while there are situations where I probably would there are also situations where I definitely wouldn't.