Al Sadr gets it.

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Originally Posted by mopar

This is probably over simplifing but, haven't these middle eastern countries been fighting each other for centuries ? What is the U.S. going do to stop this ? Aren't we basically protecting big oil interests? I don't have any answers but, I don't think fighting wars with them is going to help the situation. Maybe use covert operations to take out some of the leaders.

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It seems like every time we get rid of one guy, another guy twice as bad pops up. Let Israel deal with them

a few planes dropping presents on the entire country could solve ALL their problems as well as ours.

Until this country re-adopts the previous policies of waging war in which the entire country was an enemy, we will continue to struggle with our fights.

I am all for diplomacy and negotiation.

Diplomacy and negotiation are a limp cock if the enemy knows you have no fight.



Carpet Bomb the enemy without apology, make the cost of transgression against this country so high that the enemy will not even consider it.

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Originally Posted by Movie "Swordfish"

Stanley: War? Who are we at war with?
Gabriel: Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans.

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This.

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

Originally Posted by Movie "Swordfish"
Stanley: War? Who are we at war with?
Gabriel: Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans.

Carpet Bomb the enemy without apology, make the cost of transgression against this country so high that the enemy will not even consider it.


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Touche Byte! I would love to have a president in charge that would adopt that policy. The only thing these bastards recognize is force. You don't fight an enemy that wants you dead with the Geneva conventions. The only way to fight them is by shooting them in the head. No talks, no hearts and minds, and no backing down. They say we bomb their cities and kill innocents, well what happens when we really start doing that and saying "if you support terrorism you will die. We will not differentiate between men, women, and children, we only see supporters." Perhaps fighting fire with fire is the only solution.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

We will not differentiate between men, women, and children, we only see supporters." Perhaps fighting fire with fire is the only solution.

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We should drop a few of our really "big ones" and convert those Countries into molten glass parking lots.
I'd gladly like to see my tax dollars spent that way..
They are either our enemies or at least POTENTIAL enemies. We now need a hawk rather than a damn dove driving our Country.....[Rant1]

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Originally Posted by BlasterBob

We now need a hawk rather than a damn dove driving our Country.....[Rant1]

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I thought we had the eagle as our national bird... have you ever encountered a bald eagle? They can be really pissed off! I haven't but I have seen those "When animals attack" stuff from the good people at the Fox Network- ya know, wholesome and wonderful programming.

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Originally Posted by mopar

This is probably over simplifing but, haven't these middle eastern countries been fighting each other for centuries ? What is the U.S. going do to stop this ? Aren't we basically protecting big oil interests? I don't have any answers but, I don't think fighting wars with them is going to help the situation. Maybe use covert operations to take out some of the leaders.

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People never seem to understand the ultimate reason for "nation building" (what we're trying to do in Iraq) and the importance of sticking around and building a democracy instead of leaving a power vacuum.
As a general rule, democracies do not go to war with each other.
This means regional stability and easier trading of resources (yes, oil is probably a part of things, but really... if we aren't willing to go to war over oil, what are we willing to fight for?), etc.

Now, whether or not we will succeed in creating a stable democracy that will hold when we eventually leave is a whole different story. Most of the shitbags over there have no interest in having their country become a democracy. And whether we could succeed or not over there, we won't be sticking around long enough to get the job done anyway... the sheep no longer understand why it is we go to war, why we're in the wars were in, and that we need to support the war effort... though I'm not sure they ever did to begin with.