With that perspective you have a helluva point.Quote:
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With that perspective you have a helluva point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge
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Originally Posted by Ridge
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Originally Posted by Irving
I can see the points above, but I respect his right to refuse training to whomever he chooses. Many of us have given disclaimers in ads that we wouldn't sell to someone who didn't smell right, and I think that's a good thing. I think the majority of the people he'd offend voted for Obama. While I can see the benefit of not giving them ammunition to use against us, I don't believe in preaching their gospel, just to avoid their wrath. Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't sell to someone who brought a prayer rug to the meet, or said "Allah Akbar".Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
While I see the point of not demonizing firearms, guns are dangerous weapons. That's why we carry them. My intent in carrying a gun is to provide a deterrent which is not only dangerous, but very likely deadly, to those who would pose a threat to me or mine. We may not need goofy guys as our self-proclaimed spokesmen, but it doesn't mean they are automatically wrong.
He has a right to refuse service to anyone he wants for any reason but I still disagree with him
To say "if you are a devout muslim then you are not a true American" is just plain bigoted and close minded.
What ever happened to judging a person on the content of their character??
Yeah... I see, and concede, your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
Maybe I've read too many Vince Flynn novels lately, but I don't think I trust my insight enough to beieve that I could accurately judge the character of a stranger 100% of the time, in a brief meeting. In a perfect world, I'd give benefit of doubt, or take the time necessary to learn their true character. In our imperfect world, I'm afraid I'll err on the side of (my perceived) safety, admittedly based on gut feeling. This applies to my perception that someone might be a terrorist, a gang-banger, a criminal, an illegal, or just too moronic for me to feel good about selling them a gun. While it feels hypocritical and contrary to most of my core beliefs, I can live with the injustice.
Haha lol
Care to go deeper on this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
Per Muslim belief, his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia. He is to uphold the five pillars of Islam and the Quran. His capital per say is Mecca to which he turns to prayer five times a day.
Furthermore, a devout Muslim must not make friends of Christian and Jews (Look up 5th tab verse 51 in Quran). Muslim also must submit to the Imams and Mullahs which have declared and swore the annihilation of Israel and destruction of USA.
Moreover, a devout muslim is instructed to marry four women and multiply. He is allowed and expected to 'beat and scourge' his wife in honor killing when she disobey him. 4th tab verse 34 in Quran.
Most of all, a devout muslim per Quran believes that Muhamad and Islam do not allow freedom of religion and expression hence why Islam and Democracy do not belong in a sentence.
I have few moderate muslim friends who came here with me to be Americans. Even them are here to escape these so called devout muslims who follow the quran word by word.
**** these devout asholes. They are the bigots.
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Originally Posted by MB888
I can't argue that.
Crazy points you have in there.
Who is disagreeing with this guy? Except for one person, no one has said that so far.
I disagree with him.
were I a firearms instructor, if a devout muslim wanted to take my course and pay the fee, I'd have no problem.
if he started spouting BS, talking trash about America, or otherwise acted in a manner not conducive to polite company, I'd refund his fee and ask him to leave.
same with a democrat/liberal/moonbat. I don't give a rats ass about your politics. you want to pay me to train you, I'll be happy to take your money. but if you start acting a fool, pretending your target is george bush and whatnot, then "I reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"
I vehemently disagree with the tenets of islam, but as a christian that has been on the receiving end of bigotry I will not do that to someone else.
The man in the video is a bit misinformed. No where in the Quran does it say if you become a Shahid and blow up the Infidel will you receive 72 virgins in paradise. Devout Muslims (not radical Muslims) are strict to their religion and scourn the west, but peaceful for the most part. Unfortunately, this day & age it is hard to tell who is who. Remember, if a radical Muslim extremist comes to you for firearms training, they aren't going to tell you all the inside details of their plans if they are planning on using it to "strike the heart of the Infidel". I am certain the tangos who flew the planes into those towers didn't tell their flight instuctors their real intentions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elhuero
As a business man, I side with this guy on choosing who he gives his service to. I've been in many businesses where a sign was posted: "We reserve the right to refuse business to ANYONE." He's old school and doesn't care who disagrees with him. I have no problem people fighting or standing up for what they believe in - as a U.S. citizen, the Constitution authorizes that right. Although, keep in mind, standing up for opposing views of another doesn't guarantee you don't/shouldn't get smacked in the mouth on occassion (example: Westboro Baptist Church).
I'm just fed the f*** up with the ACLU & other activist groups beacuse they chastize Americans who stand up and speak out about the problems with illegal immigrants, building a mosque at ground zero, and our current commander in chief. They will gripe about infringement upon their Constitutional Rights, but don't care when someone threatens yours. I swear, America is on a spiral downward fall straight to the pit of Hell. How the heck are we going to fix it? [Bang]