7 P's......Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance?
Anyway, I woulda turned around and stabbed the old fart in jugular with my carry knife.
But that's just the mood I'm in today!!
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Violent reaction, probably involving a broken knee and an elbow to the throat...
We've got some bad mother fvckers here on this web board. There's a lot of I woulda beat the shit out him remarks here. You have no idea the background of this guy, yet you assume you woulda van dammed his ass. There's 60-70 year old men and women that would choked you out before you even had an opportunity to blink. Ever hear of Helio Gracie? Moral of what I'm saying never under estimate who your looking at or dealing with. Whether they are 6'8" or 5'2". Moral of the story I believe is if you're going to open carry you damn well better be prepared to be targetted first, never be too comfortable with people you don't know, and always expect the unexpected. Also, don't think your firearm is going to be the only thing to save your life. Train with your firearms, but also train in hand to hand situations. One last thing - it doesn't matter how big and bad you think you are, trust me there's someone bigger and badder. Btw if this offends any of you and hurts your feelings, chances are you aren't beating anyone's ass. [ROFL1]
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I wonder if he would do the same thing to a cop. Even if it was a joke he would end up dead or in jail.
You do make a valid point, but let's reverse it... that guy trying to grab a gun from someone's belt shouldn't underestimate either. I can't speak for anyone else's abilities on here, but I'm confident in my training, and plain and simple no matter if you're Bruce "I'm Hard" Lee or some grade school kid a strike to the throat will humble anyone. [Beer]
I don't open carry unless I'm working but... all the "ifs" being as they are, this would have turned into a knife fight, but play that one all the way through, guy take control of your weapon you respond with violence (be it knife, fists, B.U.G. or whatever)....
if you win, he dies or is serousily injured
if he wins, he gets sent to prison for 2nd degree murder (assuming proper prosecution)
either way he gets his, so the proper response IMHO would be to respond with lethal force against this old man's apparent leathal attack against you.
VIOLA!
I think everyone that has chimed in agrees about being prepared. If you're prepared, well, lets go with this particular circumstance, rather the guy could kick his ass or not, you do what you gota do. If you get your ass kicked, the dumb ass who tried to pull your shit out would still get his ass thrown in jail anyway. [Beer]
Thing is there's no winners in this story.
Kid OCing is not exhibiting the requisite amount of situational awareness nor reaction time to safely OC (note for the record that I DO NOT OC myself).
Old Man is an asshat who could just as easily got himself harmed or killed because of his arrogance.
Both are fools taking unnecessary risks with their lives.
First, everybody involved is lucky that something didn't happen. What an idiotic thing to do...so many variables that could have ended bad for the kid, the old guy, the patrons, and/or the shop workers.
Second, I am not a fan of open carry in urban settings so I wouldn't be in this situation. The last thing I want is to be noticed, and open carry brings way too much attention. I am a firm believer in blending into the environment as much as possible.