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Ain't that the truth.. I can tell you people are dumb. I've sat through plenty of trials.. It is nothing like TV or the Movies.. it would be nice if it were.. then juries wouldn't be stupid. For the most part it is 12 people not smart enough to get off doing jury duty.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
Yes & no. My wife while not being able to discuss the trial and still not talk about the ones she has been on, enjoyed being part of it. She was called for one and they asked her "How do you feel about X ?" She told them matter of fact" Fuck them they don't deserve to live"Quote:
Originally Posted by Monky
OK....... How do you feel about animal abuse?
Fuck them. "Ok, we appreciate your time".
If this is the one that happened at 84th and Washington in the Urban Mattress parking lot, we drove by shortly after it happened. I remember seeing the upside down vehicle in the Urban Mattress parking lot, completely surround by crouching firemen, looking into the vehicle. That was a pretty sad event.
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Originally Posted by jim
The prosecution presented a weak case and the Judge damn near threw the whole thing out because of the prosecution.
I have mixed feelings on this case. Ideally if she had a medical condition she should not have been driving.
But on the other hand the day after her seizure in 2006 she did go see her regular Dr and he cleared her with no restrictions on her driving.
She did what a reasonable person would do given the circumstances I believe.
Bottom line, this was a terrible accident that unfortunately destroyed 2 families.
Of course things as this should never happen, but they do.
Was it a criminal act however?
In this case the prosecution did not present a case that set forth without a doubt that it was a criminal act.
The jurors made a verdict on the evidence as presented.
People forget what rides on the jury. Everyone wants justice but the worst possible outcome is for an innocent person to be found guilty ad their life over. If the evidence doesn't clearly show she acted with an intent to do harm or with obvious negligence then how do you decide to ruin her life? The evidence has to be indisputable in my opinion.
I may get flamed for this but I noticed the prosecutor was about to pop one out. She could have been too hormonal to be completely effective in her job, although theirs typically a team working on these cases. About a half dozen women have had babies at my work over the last couple years. They have mostly been emotional wrecks and almost impossible to deal with at times. Then came the endless hours of closed office doors with the subtle sound of breast pump machines. Not saying this is the case here, but I wouldn't discount it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
well the rules in a civil trial are different... and I hope the victims family takes everything she ever hopes to have
I believe the facts of the matter are clear enough.
She has a previously diagnosed condition which had caused her to have a seizure in the past. She failed/refused to seek follow up care to ensure she was not a risk to herself or others.
When you slide behind the wheel of a moter vehicle with the intent to operate that motor vehicle on public streets you assume a great deal of responsibility - to include the consequences for your actions - intentional or not.
This woman KNEW she had a potential condition which should have precluded her from operating a motor vehicle but she chose to disregard it and she acted selfishly by putting her children in the vehicle and driving when she had a known pre-existing condition/propensity for having seizures. She never got checked out to see if there was a chance it could happen again or if it was a one time thing. Because of her actions a family of 5 are DEAD.
I would feel very differently about this case if she had never had a seizure before or had at least gotten follow-up treatment/evaluation, but she did not. At the very least, this woman is responsible for child abuse/endangerment and 5 counts of manslaughter. Realistically though, she committed murder 5 times over and has gotten away with it because, in this country we have no such thing as "personal responsibility".
If you have a pre-diagnosed condition and do not take the proper steps to avoid a seizure or whatever your condition is, your insurance will not cover the damages you do.
Just another thing to think about when you go shopping for insurance and want to get the cheapest coverage possible.
Hope at the very least she is smacked with a civil lawsuit that will take everything she has or will have for the rest of her miserable existence.