And the first lawsuit...

It'd be great just once to have someone with a CCW that was involved to sue the theater for taking away their right to defend themselves by not allowing ccw.

I suspect the family put it out there they were looking for a lawsuit, and they found each other.

There are armed off-duty police in the lobby of the theatre, THAT is not the issue here.

I suspect, like many, he and his family just want to get the millions they are "owed" and spout off until they are "famous".

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Originally Posted by RCCrawler

It'd be great just once to have someone with a CCW that was involved to sue the theater for taking away their right to defend themselves by not allowing ccw.

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Exactly! Great point!

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I'm not so sure that the lawyer approached this kid. I saw him on the news the other night and he's a fucking liberal piece of shit. Sorry, I know he's a "victim" of this horrible tragedy, but he's an idiot! [Rant1]
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If I'm reading the article right, the person suing wasn't even injured.

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The plaintiff: Torrence Brown Jr., who was not physically injured in the melee but was friends with victim A.J. Boik. The attorney: Donald Karpel, a Beverly Hills lawyer who doesn't shy away from the limelight.

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I agree that the theater was negligent in regard to the emergency exits. While they, by law, cannot be locked; there is no handle on the outside and they can only be opened from inside via the pushbar. Fire/Emergency exits are frequently alarmed and will sound an alarm when opened . . . these doors were not alarmed. Furthermore, it is not at all uncommon for a patron to purchase one ticket, then go over to the emergency exit and allow several friends inside without paying -- this happens so often that many theaters have an usher standing next to each exit until the show begins and then for 10 minutes or more afterwards. With such a popular movie's premier that was nearly sold out and filled to capacity, those exits should have been guarded at the beginning of the show, which is when this incident occurred. On a weekday afternoon matinee, that is unnecessary, but for a midnight premier it was borderline criminal negligence. That theater will lose the civil suit regarding the exits. The other two lawsuits lack merit and are frivolous.

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Originally Posted by PSS

If I'm reading the article right, the person suing wasn't even injured.

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No, he walked away without one scratch. He got very lucky. Another reason this lawsuit should fall on it's face, but welcome to America... [Bang]

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Originally Posted by Clint45

I agree that the theater was negligent in regard to the emergency exits. While they, by law, cannot be locked; there is no handle on the outside and they can only be opened from inside via the pushbar. Fire/Emergency exits are frequently alarmed and will sound an alarm when opened . . . these doors were not alarmed. Furthermore, it is not at all uncommon for a patron to purchase one ticket, then go over to the emergency exit and allow several friends inside without paying -- this happens so often that many theaters have an usher standing next to each exit until the show begins and then for 10 minutes or more afterwards. With such a popular movie's premier that was nearly sold out and filled to capacity, those exits should have been guarded at the beginning of the show, which is when this incident occurred. On a weekday afternoon matinee, that is unnecessary, but for a midnight premier it was borderline criminal negligence. That theater will lose the civil suit regarding the exits. The other two lawsuits lack merit and are frivolous.

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This is what I was thinking... WHERE WERE THE USHERS? Usually those guys are crawling all over the place. Maybe they had too much going on this night? I don't know.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I'm not so sure that the lawyer approached this kid. I saw him on the news the other night and he's a fucking liberal piece of shit. Sorry, I know he's a "victim" of this horrible tragedy, but he's an idiot! I don't care, idiots can be victims too, but when they try to bring us down to their level I get infuriated. This kid wants a police state, plain and simple. He said "there's no need for anyone to own an AR-15," and "There should have been security guards at the theater." WHAT!? How about we just post a cop on EVERY corner? How about we just make theaters charge $45/ticket so they can hire BlackWater to come and guard us while we watch our movies? And violent movies are entertaining. Two of my favorite movies are Heat and The Town... I'm not more inclined to do anything wrong after watching them. I'll bet 99% of people who see violent movies are not. STFU you fucking idiot! [Rant1]
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Poor guy, what are his damages, the cost of his ticket? Pain and suffering? Apparently he wasn't shot or otherwise injured. PTSD?

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Originally Posted by Clint45

I agree that the theater was negligent in regard to the emergency exits. While they, by law, cannot be locked; there is no handle on the outside and they can only be opened from inside via the pushbar. Fire/Emergency exits are frequently alarmed and will sound an alarm when opened . . . these doors were not alarmed. Furthermore, it is not at all uncommon for a patron to purchase one ticket, then go over to the emergency exit and allow several friends inside without paying -- this happens so often that many theaters have an usher standing next to each exit until the show begins and then for 10 minutes or more afterwards. With such a popular movie's premier that was nearly sold out and filled to capacity, those exits should have been guarded at the beginning of the show, which is when this incident occurred. On a weekday afternoon matinee, that is unnecessary, but for a midnight premier it was borderline criminal negligence. That theater will lose the civil suit regarding the exits. The other two lawsuits lack merit and are frivolous.

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dont they have the right to not protect themselves from people sneaking in?

anybody know if the doors were marked? did they actually say that it would sound an alarm if opened? would that change anything?

Maybe thats why the murderer waited until about 30 min into the movie. Maybe the ushers were at the exits then had to depart for other duties.

Wtf is a nerdy usher going to do ? I guess he could have kept the door from being propped open. But then the shooter would have gonein the lobby and shot it up. Then walked in the theater and shot it up. Or usher shot 1st. Alarm ,,,,,,,,,, people would have sat around looking at the propped door. I'm pretty sure they would not scatter out of the theater due to a door alarm. Usher would have shown up to respond to the door and be the 1st one shot. Only thing that would have stopped this dick is a bullet or somebody taking him down.