There is a risk of FUD in any class, agree the elevator escalator thing sounds silly
There is a risk of FUD in any class, agree the elevator escalator thing sounds silly
I would avoid online classes at all costs...I'm sure there are some rural areas that would benefit from offering these classes, but the level of training, interaction & education can't be anything but subpar.
Just by reading the first post I knew this is the same class I took on saturday. I was very underwhelmed and I was positive the instructor was wrong on many things. Also said you can't open carry in Aurora and that it's impossible to carry while driving because there are school zones everywhere.
I happen to work for RTD, and I know that their policy allows concealed carry on bus and light rail, as long as you have a CHP.
Yeah, the instructor plainly never read the actual statute regarding gun free school zones.Quote:
Originally Posted by henry
If this guy taught the course for FREE it would still be overpriced. What a tool.
[QUOTE=bczandm;1102901]You cannot carry in the State of Colorado:
*in an elevator
*on an escalator
*in a post office or any building where a federal employee works, including anywhere on most indian reservations
*on an RTD bus
*you can't carry a gun into a bar (but if food is served and 50% or more of the sales are food it's ok)
*you cannot carry in certain portions of the national forest
*if you take any prescription drugs you cannot carry
Who is this guy?
Dr Seuss?
It sounds a lot like 'Green Eggs and Ham'!
From the website...
Quote:
Unlike policemen, you will be arrested and sued if you shoot someone.
Wow, this guy should be reported to the NRA and should NOT be teaching classes.
Unlike policemen, you will be arrested and sued if you shoot someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowspeed_highdrag
You will be placed in custody UNTIL your Attorney arrives, No one knows what happened until the investigation is over. You will be sued, by someone, no matter how much of a lowlife the Attacker was. They come out of the woodwork and rehab faster than you can say Attorney.
ANY presciption drugs?
I think that the possibility that you could be sued civilly is actually pretty reasonable guys and I think it would be wise for anyone carrying CCW legally to have a good relationship with a good lawyer or on retainer even, it just makes sense, most LEO's carry some form of secondary legal council to the Department be it union or other and there is good reasons for that. Even if you happen to kill the intruder/Mugger whatever you still have the BG's family that could sue you, Civil actions run the spectrum of valid to seriously flawed, its civil you wouldn't believe some of the civil actions that are out there.
I think the rest of the course sounds like garbage and while I am not soliciting here but I know of several LEO's that do provide CCW courses as well as supplemental training if you are interested PM me and I will forward their info.
[facepalm]= sums it all up
Anyone report this to NRA yet?
I was advised by an attorney that anytime you shoot or shoot at or even draw your weapon against someone, you have opened yourself up to a potential lawsuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
He went on to say:
1) Anyone can file suit for just about anything
2) Winning a suit is a different thing than filing one
3) Whether you win or lose, it is likely to cost you money to defend yourself (Colorado does not have the "Loser pays or repays the winner" law)
4) In self-defense, you have better chances, legally, if you kill the person. If only wounded, the assailant can testify against you and his lawyer will likely try to twist things beyond reality.
NOTE: He did not "recommend" killing anyone...he was just speaking from a legal perspective that a that an "alive" assailant is considered legally about as equal as the shooter, in terms of an "eye witness". Without the assailant as a witness, the shooter has a better defense.
Don't take your class where your son did. That is stupid.
Here is a link to someone that has looked into the "RTD" thing a bit more (not too old an article : DEC 2012)
AUTHORS SUMMARY: CCW Permits "grant leagal authority" and thus CCW with permit on RTD is OK.
REF: http://www.havegunwilltraincolorado....ransportation/
Quote:
...Rick, I am the Co-Owner of www.handgunlaw.us and Reading your site you posted back on Jul 18 about concealed carry and No Open Carry Signs. You stated the places that those with a permit/license to carry can not carry and you stated Public Transportation (Bus). I can’t find this in state law or the Admin Rules. Can you tell me where this is in CO Law/Regs as I don’t have that listed as a place off limits for Colorado. Any assistance you can give Handgunlaw.us in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Stay safe, Gary SliderI started to look through outlines from all the education courses I attended, but was unable to locate any citations as to where one might find this information. I looked through the Colorado Revised Statutes and could not find the spot where concealed carry on public transportation was discussed. Today I called the RTD Regional Transportation District in Denver and asked the question of the customer service rep named Mark who took my call. I explained what I wanted to know and we looked together through website information to no avail. Mark then took all my information and said someone would get back to me. About an hour later I received a phone call from a Detective and a Captain with the RTD, and they proceeded to tell me exactly what I wanted to know. The statute is listed below and the key to the whole cite is “without legal authority”. As Concealed Carry Permit holders, we have legal authority as granted with our Concealed Carry Permits. I will be checking with several other cities, including Colorado Springs and Pueblo, to see if there are any notices posted on the transportation in those jurisdictions....
I realized I was morphing this beyond the intended scope, so I voluntarily
moved these posts to CCW forum.
See this link http://www.ar-15.co/threads/101859-C...=1#post1112331
Moved to CCW Forum