Help me tear apart this frightening video.

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Originally Posted by Kraven251

New Drinking game?

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I'm in. Wait we're doing shots of beer, right? I don't think I could handle 30+ shots of hard liquor! [Shake]

Ok, but is anybody gonna deny the tactical coolness of the wilted lettuce in the rifle shooters hats?

I like the part in the other video where the whole firing line has to do the Electric Slide.

ETA: Just watched the first video, and Oh My! Granted, I haven't had much training, nor given much thought about how I'd clear a house with a bunch of people, and not sweep anyone, but jeeze. Also, what is up with bursting into the room and looking around every where before engaging targets? I guess forget slicing the pie, but if you are going to run blindly into a room like that, at least be shooting at the first target you see instead of running to the middle of the room and just standing there.

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^^ Stop insulting the mentally challenged folks please!

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Originally Posted by Big Wall

I drove past the Co. Shooting Sports building on Friday. It had a space available sign on it.

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They probably all shot each other.

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Originally Posted by fitz19d

Sorry, dead serious. And worst part is our mall ninja was going around bragging about it, hence them getting scared at idea of him with a gun.

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So you're saying your bro is in this video, give us a clue to which one he is?

I bet he's bicycle helmet boy.

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Originally Posted by Irving

I like the part in the other video where the whole firing line has to do the Electric Slide.

ETA: Just watched the first video, and Oh My! Granted, I haven't had much training, nor given much thought about how I'd clear a house with a bunch of people, and not sweep anyone, but jeeze. Also, what is up with bursting into the room and looking around every where before engaging targets? I guess forget slicing the pie, but if you are going to run blindly into a room like that, at least be shooting at the first target you see instead of running to the middle of the room and just standing there.

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Adrenalin rush , disorientation not knowing where the target was etc. No matter how good or bad a class is you get tunnel vision.

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Originally Posted by jim

He opened a place on 8th ave. LE discount glocks starts @ $600. OTC run $750. I'm not allowed in there.

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And $2,000 M&P9s. But it's worth it because it's got an Apex FSS kit and it's been stipled.

I'm betting he is the heavyset one that has terrible form with the pistol and is literally just pulling the trigger as fast as he can in the general direction of the target.... Video game style.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I'm betting he is the heavyset one that has terrible form with the pistol and is literally just pulling the trigger as fast as he can in the general direction of the target.... Video game style.

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Mall ninjaness and weight generally go hand in hand

I went to a QCB course once.

I guess that means I can teach that stuff now...

Be wise spending your money on training guys. There are a lot of shitbags out there.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I'm betting he is the heavyset one that has terrible form with the pistol and is literally just pulling the trigger as fast as he can in the general direction of the target.... Video game style.

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I was thinking the same thing..

and he is the "face" of guns in Greeley. every time the news runs a story they have him in it. not the kind of face we need.

wasnt his brother the platteville cop who shot the unarmed man a couple years ago?

Just plain... WOW.

Have not had any formal training since military in the mid 80's, looking for a place to get some quality traning (and survive).

Neither one of these places works for me! Good grief, talk about scary.

Suggestions for quality training?

Have to get ready for the Quigley first.

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

I bet he's bicycle helmet boy.

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Nope

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I'm betting he is the heavyset one that has terrible form with the pistol and is literally just pulling the trigger as fast as he can in the general direction of the target.... Video game style.

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Yeap

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Originally Posted by Hoser

I went to a QCB course once.

I guess that means I can teach that stuff now...

Be wise spending your money on training guys. There are a lot of shitbags out there.

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Sage advice, and I would take your QCB class. :screwy::D


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Nope, not interested in working with these guys.

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Originally Posted by jim

Adrenalin rush , disorientation not knowing where the target was etc. No matter how good or bad a class is you get tunnel vision.

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I don't buy it in this video. They all look like they are doing that trained side to side sweep that you see people do; like in that other video.

I'm not saying what you said doesn't happen, as I've missed targets before. This just looks like what they were told to do. Great technique for busting up back Room card games like in the movies.

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Originally Posted by buffalobo

Sage advice, and I would take your QCB class. :screwy::D


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It's so intense the acronym can't even handle the stress.

Wow. Good thing those t-shirt wearing cardboard silhouettes weren't armed or else they would've smoked every dude that wasn't already taken out by friendly fire.

I do like how the guy throws the "flashbang" towards the end. Kinda a limp-wristed overhand toss. Would've been better if it hit the "door frame" and landed at their feet.

They misspelled "Quarters."

I don't understand the whole human-centipede thing they've got going on in the beginning of the video, and there's a lot of weapons being pointed at people. I don't thinik I would be willing to be in the group if they were armed with dart guns.

The whole t-shirts-on-cardboard-targets things is a bit disturbing.

All in all, I'd say most of these people need to refresh themselves with the basic rules of the range again, and stop trying to look cool for the camera. I get the impression they didn't get nearly enough chance at playing 'soldier' or cops-and-robbers when they were growing up.

And now the link is dead. Good thing I got to see that mess before they yanked it. WTF?

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Originally Posted by airborneranger

And now the link is dead. Good thing I got to see that mess before they yanked it. WTF?

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I can still watch it in the OP.

Did a sensitive Sally get their feelings hurt and request the board remove it?

Anthony is a member here..

Not justifying anything done in the video, I wasn't there, don't know shit, but I will say this to all of you talking about weapon sweeps -- in real life they happen. No one likes them, no one trains to purposely sweep the guy in front of you, but it does happen. While I am far from any expert on CQB (or anything else) I have watched and analyzed video of many groups and they all do it.

Lot's of things 'not to do' including oogling the chick in the levis...

I wonder if it's going to be a little rough at the office tomorrow morning.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I'm betting he is the heavyset one that has terrible form with the pistol and is literally just pulling the trigger as fast as he can in the general direction of the target.... Video game style.

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He's the guy with the krinkov.

Member, not Member, don't care, you exhibit or allow that level of negligence with a weapon especially one you know without any doubt is hot, you need to be called out and get an ass chewing.

I would want to be corrected on that behavior, not only unsafe, but potentially lethal. bad juju

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Originally Posted by Wulf202

He's the guy with the krinkov.

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Think you two are talking two different things. Yes the guy with the krink I think is navvaro or whoever is the owner. Vs Honeybadger was talking about the mall ninja.

Couldn't read the thread thru my own facepalm....

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Originally Posted by asmo

Anthony is a member here..

Not justifying anything done in the video, I wasn't there, don't know shit, but I will say this to all of you talking about weapon sweeps -- in real life they happen. No one likes them, no one trains to purposely sweep the guy in front of you, but it does happen. While I am far from any expert on CQB (or anything else) I have watched and analyzed video of many groups and they all do it.

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Sorry dude, but if you are not in a real "fighting for your life" situation, there is absolutely no way in hell anyone should get swept with the muzzle of a loaded gun. I don't give a sh!t what sort of training you are doing, or how tacticool you're trying to look. That level of negligence is beyond stupid and is incredibly risky. It's a wonder nobody got shot. [Shake] [facepalm]

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Originally Posted by fitz19d

Think you two are talking two different things. Honeybadger was talking about the mall ninja.

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Correct.

As for me, I've have not taken a CQB course yet. That being said I have taken very basic to moderately advanced shooting courses and depending on the level of the shooters different range rules are followed. (Some are always followed 1 - 4, however) For example, in very basic courses if someone is forward of being parallel of you a ceasefire is called. Other courses, more advanced, we ran drills that had people forward, but never less then a 45 degree angle of you. Considering this, those guys in the video should not be in this kind of a course. Just from what I can judge with my limited experience they need to work up to this level. The full responsibility, however, falls squarely on the instructor(s). He should be vetting his students before excepting their money. I would have walk away as soon as I was told to do something I thought was not safe. And what is up with a course like this not requiring body armor and a ballistic helmet?

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Correct.

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Anthony:

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Don't train advanced skills with people who have no background doing (much less teaching) those skills.

Anyone can hang out a shingle. Buyer beware...