Double post - sorry
Double post - sorry
I was thinking more of fired...like in a kiln.
Anyone remember the story of the town that fired a canon for football games, and when the cannon one day exploded and put a kid in the hospital, the whole town sent "I hope you die" and various other hate filled cards to the hospital?Quote:
Originally Posted by airborneranger
There has to be more to this story. Not saying forced rape is okay but something just ain't right. The "Friday night lights" mentality is strong but...
No, never heard that one - they did that to the kid that was injured? That's fucked up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Steubenville, OH
I'm sure there are better media coverage out there.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...e-known-better
Found it!Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/artic...ed-1222900.php
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But the shot that nearly took off Brett Karch's leg now leaves the fate of that tradition in the air, and that has upset some in the community.According to Karch's medical records, security guards notified police after Karch received disturbing phone calls and visits from parents and students, some of whom threatened to "break his other leg" or worse, if he didn't keep quiet about the accident. Hospital staff had to move him to a secure room where they monitored visitors.
Callers and visitors told Karch they would "make sure his other leg got blown off," and that "there would be retaliation" if the family cooperated in an investigation that could end the cannon tradition, said Mary Bissel, Karch's mother. "That's when I kind of got a little upset," Karch said.
The threats also included mention the family would be "banned from the town," Bissell said. She's been warned not to talk to a lawyer, or reporters.
Wow, that's insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I didn't read all these post, but one of my first thoughts were, wonder if any of the school shooters were Hazed? Wouldn't THAT be something....
That was the big discussion after Columbine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited GM
sorry I wasnt on all weekend... but yeah, I remember that being a BIG topic of discussion after Columbine..Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I have some friends that attended Columbine in those days- they said what people did to Dylan and Eric was really horrible, driving by throwing bottles (glass) at them, spraying them with soda, and all kinds of bullying. One girl said to me afterward something like "While it's wrong the way they reacted, no one can really be surprised Dylan and Eric lashed out, the way they were treated. Not saying anyone deserved to die, but those bullies did deserve to be punished." When those entrusted to preserve order and rule of law fail, oftentimes some have to take that responsibility into their own hands. NOTE: I am NOT saying go out and kill these people like in Columbine, but I was the victim of bullying in HS and every avenue I tried to take to get it to stop led to a dead end. I was left with almost no options... So I waited for the asshole bully to graduate. It begs the question, when people stop doing the right thing, what do the good, fair and decent people do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad4000
totally agree.. it's a terrifying question..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Innocent kids who draw guns on paper, or "play Army" or "cowboys and Indians" on the playground, or chew a Pop-Tart into "the shape of a gun", or wear an NRA t-shirt, etc., or bring an empty .22 case to school, or a target to show off.....they get crucified every day by "zero tolerance" policies in schools all around the country.
But bullies? - the schools and society look the other way. And if they're athletes, they may even get celebrated for their awesome toughness.
Nah, no double standards here folks - move along.
seriously f-ed up.. I was telling a buddy about this story, and he was saying that when he was in HS that the baseball team used to have somebody tuck their junk back, and put the freshmans faces in it... said one of the upper classman tried to have him do it, and he hit the kid in the face with a metal cleat lol... but he said a whole bunch of his buddies were forced to put their faces in some dudes junk...... like wtf???????? maybe I lived a shelter life.... I dunno..... hazing yes, bullying, etc... but not this shitQuote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Didn't read all the posts...
Did wrestling and soccer from a young age through college.
Never experienced a hazing incident and certainly no Sandusky BS
Sad times for kids, and pathetic reactions by parents, based on the media story.
^^ my brother wrestled, never anything like this... this fuckin world man..
I wrestled and played football- the worst hazing we ever got (coach endorsed) was end of practice, made to run through the varsity drills and get laid out. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad4000
I graduated HS in 1974, so that was a different era. In HS, the boys were only allowed to swim naked in the school pool. No trunks, no shorts, only butt-ass naked. I don't know that I'd consider it "hazing", but I damn sure considered it strange then, and still do. The reasoning was that "fibers and strings from trunks or shorts will clog the pool filters", which was pure horseshit IMO. What, little curly hairs don't clog filters? And the girls used the same pool (not at the same time) but THEY got to use swimsuits.
I think our friggin' gym coach just liked naked boys. Wet, glistening, naked boys. He damn sure liked to line up the horseplayers along the edge of the pool and swat their wet bare asses with his paddle and knock 'em back in the water. I saw that shit once and figured good behavior in the pool was mandatory. No swats on my fat ass, thank you.
I've always wondered if the naked swimming thing was normal, I sure as hell didn't think so. But my brothers were all a lot older than me and they said it was that way for them too.
^^ fuckin weird. I would like to think theres no chance of that happening these days, but considering the article.. who knows...
WTF!?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Yeah, tell me about it. It's one of those things that's so wierd and WTF that you hesitate to bring it up. But every male that went through that high school for generations did the same thing, and it wasn't just one coach, it spanned several. They may still do it for all I know. Wasn't any shenanigans otherwise that I know of, other than the usual ass-popping with towels in the locker room. I didn't like showering with other guys then and I ain't gettin' near it now. Huh-uh. NFW.
Don't ever join the military then... goo! Now that I think about it, with DADT repealed... [panic]Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
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Originally Posted by Ronin13
you think repealing DADT will have a blatant affect? (I dont think it's a good idea at all,, just always wondered how many guys would actually even come out if given the chance)
I think Ronin was being a little tongue-and-cheek about DADT. Most guys I know in the military didn't really give a crap about the repeal of DADT (some guys had a problem with it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad4000
yeah I agree...Quote:
Originally Posted by ImNtUrBuddyGuy
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by ImNtUrBuddyGuy
At my age and my weight, with my back and knee problems, I don't think that's a possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13