Is that a GITMO orange jumpsuit he is wearing?
ooh, the looker on the left front!
Is that a GITMO orange jumpsuit he is wearing?
ooh, the looker on the left front!
It's on the porch kicking in the front door.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
This is an ideological battle where the enemy gives you 2 choices, convert or die. There's only one way to deal with that threat. Wake up people!
The President sent out a message celebrating Islam today:
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/...day-of-attack/
"He was friendly, funny, kind," Kagan Wagner told the paper. "I never would have thought it would would be him."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
...as reported by FoxNews.com
"Abdulazeez’s former coach said on CNN earlier he was a good kid that didn’t exhibit any “red flag” behavior."
...reports CNN
When roof killed, the country lowered a flag. This is how many ISLAM FAITH BASED killers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
MR. PRESIDENT, TIME TO LOWER ISLAM, in to the ground. Oh I FORGOT it's a religion of Peace
Piece of you here, piece of you over there, and there.
The armed services need to be armed. These folks need to make it so...
http://armedservices.house.gov/index...tary-personnel
Weapons I carried as a 20 year old Marine assigned to a CQB team serving INCONUS.
M1014 with 24 rounds
M4A1 with 228 rounds
M9A1 with 60 rounds
Chance of there being a fatal base fire almost zero.
Fire Exstinguishers everywhere to stop fires.
Chances of an armed group determined to compromise 1/3 of Americas Nuclear Arsenal almost zero. 300 pissed off Marines and Sailors standing guard 24/7, 12 CQB Marines waiting for someone to get past those guards.
Chances of being assaulted, kidnapped, murdered, or an on base/near base terrorist attack... it's happened..with multiple fatalities. On almost every U.S. base in the world.
Weapons allowed to be carried on the person of a trained service member off duty on base? 3.5" knife.
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I wish the media would just stop saying "Radicalized Islam". It is just: Islam. It is Islam's time. Just like once it was Christans' time, and Pagans' time. They all take turns throughout history "Jihading" or "Crusading" or "Persecuting", or "Inquisiting" whatever the folks that don't believe what they believe.
Once you give a group of people a book of writings that say there is a state of mind or body or whatever after this existance that is better than this one if you do what some deiety says. And those writings are so vague and open to interpretation (and have over 90 passages justifying killing folks who do not believe what you believe). This opens the doors to any person with some really good public-speaking skills to preach and twist "The teachings of god" into their own agenda.
And the Sheeple will follow, and do whatever is ordered without regard for what happens in this life because "they will be rewarded in the next life". Anyone want some Grape Kool-Aid?
Like i said. When roof displayed the CSA flag the OUTCRY to remove this symbol of Hate & Racism was overwhelming from the SJW crowd. ANOTHER ISLAMIST ( citizen no less) and the same SJW's are silent, why is that? We know.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
Fox is reporting this guy spent at least 7 months in Jordan and Yemen. Doesn't sound "domestic" to me...
I'm reading various things that indicate this guy was trained. Why 2 different sites? Anyone notice the tight bullet pattern and height of the shots in the glass doors? Where would the bodies be if they dove behind their desks for cover? Who trained him? Well, we know that answer, if he was in any way connected with ISIS, all fingers point back to our own CIA...
I don't want to disrespect those victims that lost their lives in this event, so I'll refrain from anything else... Silence for the fallen.
He was a naturalized citizen who went to primary and secondary school here. It's domestic.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
Was he one of obama's "moderate" muslims trained to fight ISIS?Quote:
Originally Posted by sellersm
My Mom in Kalifornia has a muslim caregiver, a nice 63 year old lady who does a great job for my Mom but is a staunch Obama supporter. When I spoke with this lady her a few months ago about "muslim terrorists" and why the administration could not say that, she explained to me that peaceful muslims are the only "real muslims" and the jihadis and not muslims at all. I guess many may tell themselves that, but I have observed what the Koran and Hadiths say and I'm convinced it depends on what interpretations one subscribes to. The Koran and Hadiths (and Mohammed) clearly advocate violent practices to non-believers throughout, and one can't reasonably claim that such violent practices are not recommended or condoned. What one personally subscribes to is another matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
As for why the administration and liberals/progressives defend muslims so staunchly, it has to do with their beliefs of the muslim people and communities around the world being an oppressed and downtrodden people and a need to defend them from all critique (in PC-speak they call this "minor aggressions") even to the point of denying terrorism. I can see why otherwise peaceful muslims would support that approach, as it seeks to minimize outward hostility toward muslims in general. However, my sense is with continued regular doses of terrorism by muslim jihadis - especially in the US - the bulk of American people will inevitably become anti-muslim and will harbor anti-muslim emotions/feelings. Couple this with the peaceful muslims lack of speaking out against muslim terrorism or leading the charge to do anything substantive about it, and it is inevitable that non-muslim westerners will feel hostility toward muslims. There have been many reports of exactly this happening in the european countries with higher muslim populations such as France, UK, Belgium, Denmark, and Sweden.
Years ago we were told we could fight them over there or we could fight them here...the liberals decided they wouldn't fight them at all. Just like most of Europe they wanted to embrace Islam...we are seeing how well that is working out. What is occurring thru Europe and here is basically what prompted the crusades.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
Regarding the "mainline Muslim" or the "peaceful Muslim"...
http://youtu.be/YnOF7y-KuHE
Interesting, CNN just reported he was released from a job at an Ohio nuke power plant in what sounded like the probationary hire period.
Well, instead of making the obvious connection that this foreign born muslim, with an engineering degree, who recently spent 7+ months in Jordan and Yemen, who aspired to work at a nuke plant probably had even more evil terroristic intentions, the media will call him a disgruntled, recently fired employee.
So his deep cover plan was to infil a nuclear power plant for purposes of sabotage ... his hopes are dashed so he throws together a little impromptu mass shooting. Clearly just a disgruntled worker (probably a Tea Party member too).Quote:
Originally Posted by XC700116
Plus he had gotten nailed for a DUI in April.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
Upstanding citizen to be sure.
But...he was a super muslim, and muslims of any sort don't drink. How'd he get a DUI?
DRIVING UNDER ISLAMQuote:
Originally Posted by Aardvark
This is just heart wrenching...
http://i.imgur.com/nvXPNvc.jpg
http://www.13wham.com/news/features/...8.shtml?wap=0&
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge
Damn
Man that is a hard one to read. So sad...
Casualty #5 passed away overnight.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nav...ing/ar-AAdaFwp
Quote:
A sailor wounded in the attack in Chattanooga, Tenn., on Thursday died overnight from his wounds, the Navy and his family said.
Randall Smith was a petty officer in the Navy. The service declined Saturday morning to release his name, but Darlene Proxmire, a step-grandmother in Ohio, confirmed his identity. His age had not been confirmed.
The Navy said Smith died at 2:17 a.m.
Proxmire, of Paulding, Ohio, said Smith had recently reenlisted to stay in the service, and was a married father with three children.
A Marine's response: http://thewashingtonstandard.com/mar...od-of-marines/
Snippet:And another snippet:Quote:
In the wake of Thursday’s jihad attack on a military recruiting center in Chattanooga, Tennessee that left four United States Marines dead, one Marine says he has had enough and has gone to social media to inform the Islamic State, “You wanted attention, and yesterday, you got it. Only, you chose the wrong people to seek that attention from.” He was talking about the United States Marines.
Quote:
“You see, we won’t play by the rules you’re accustomed to seeing,” he wrote. “When you play in our backyard, we don’t have to answer to any chain of command. We will not follow ridiculous ROEs crafted by a spineless bureaucrat to appease some goat herding tribal leader. And we won’t be wearing uniforms so that you can easily ambush us. Nope. None of that shit.”
“When you think you’re walking into a target-rich environment, you’re really walking into an ambush,” he continued. “That pudgy, middle-aged guy wearing khakis in the mall, who unbeknownst to you, is a former 0311 and armed, will dump your sorry ass before you have a chance to scream ‘allah snackbar.’ And that soccer mom pushing a stroller, she’s got a Glock and will happily leave you gasping in a pool of your own blood before she lets you hurt her children.”
“We are here and we still have the training and experience to wage war, whether here or abroad,” he added. “And wage war we will. Every one of us are willing to fight and die to protect our Marine Corps brothers and sisters, our families and friends, and our way of life.”
I think that's a lot of wishful thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by sellersm
A lot of heat there, but not much light.
Ultimately, it will require this society to grow a spine. A few generations ago, this would more likely be true, but the current generation has already forgotten the attacks on the World trade center in 1993 and again on 9-11.
If the Islamists were to take down Facebook and 'reality TV', maybe Gen Y/Millennials would notice and then leap into action by emoting about it.
Well, this ought to protect our soldiers.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/stor...osed/30353587/Quote:
One of the steps Carter approved was Marine Corps Recruiting Command's decision to have recruiters not wear their military uniforms for now, a defense official said. The recruiting command also closed down all offices within 40 miles of the facilities in Chattanooga and increased the force protection condition level from "Bravo" to "Charlie."
Have we become a nation full of pansies? This is ridiculous. A few of our good men get killed and our first response is to tell the rest of them not to publicly identify themselves as soldiers? Insanity! We are supposed to be a nation of badass Yankees! How the hell did we become a nation that wants to hide our men just because they may be threatened!?!?!? Makes me sick.
I hope I hear from some of the Marines here. I'm not so I don't know. But seems to me this would be a slap in the face to those of you who wore that uniform proudly.
Yeah...next they'll be telling cops not to wear their uniforms because it could be dangerous to do so. Fuck that. This country is screaming for leadership...and there's none to be had from our gov't.
Fucking discraceful....would love to see this completely ignored and recruiters start showing up to work in their Blues.....
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Are you stating that you don't think any current/former Marines would fight back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
I hope so too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DireWolf
And then there's this...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...y.html?hpid=z2Quote:
CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. — The FBI has recovered a pistol that may have been privately owned and used by one of the Marines killed here Thursday during the shooting at the Navy Operational Support Center, according to law enforcement officials.
Investigators are trying to determine, based on forensics, whether the pistol, a 9mm Glock, was used in an exchange with the shooter and possibly wounded him, officials said.
I hope he got a round off in his ass, please tell me he had bacon lubed ammo in it!
Sounds like a good reason for people to say, "See it don't not work arm military guy recruit people." (trans) See it didn't help that they were armed.
Lefties will say that being armed didn't help. And if an armed service member successfully stopped an attacker, the lefties would say, "the military and veterans are all blood thirsty, trained killers". Either way, the community organizer's sheep will go 'bah' to make us non-koolaid drinkers look bad. It's in their nature and nurture, to be cowards and defeatists. At one time, for a long time, it was my nature and nurture to protect them. Now....couldn't give a flying turd outta dead rat's ass about protecting the lefties.
I don't think that's what he is saying at all. There were many assumptions made in that post, to be an 0311 and "take out" a jihadi, you'd have to actually be carrying. My brother is a Marine, and has his CCW, but carries very casually, meaning not often. There are just not that many people carrying, not as many as the author made it sound. A lot of bad $h!t has happened, and yet nobody responded with return fire (think Aurora theatre, where there were service members in attendance). The armed populace just isn't what people think it is, definitely a minority.Quote:
Originally Posted by sellersm