So I got a response from the recruiter, basically said with my attitude I was not a good fit and he would not be submitting me to the client.
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So I got a response from the recruiter, basically said with my attitude I was not a good fit and he would not be submitting me to the client.
LOL
Well, good news, sort of.
I just got an offer letter, the place is in Brighton so maybe 20 minutes away on a bad day.
The bad news is the pay is below a break even point for us. No way we can tread water on the fast food salary they're offering. But I'm going to accept and keep looking. Just getting this offer took me about 5.5 months, not much unemployment left and I really don't want to dip into the retirement funds I've scraped and saved.
I HATE having the attitude that every job is a stepping stone. I would love to find a good situation and be at the next job till I hang it all up, but this isn't going to be it. I just don't see any other choice.
Thanks for the tips and leads some have sent in, sadly I'll still be keeping an eye open.
Any chance you can counter offer?
Always easier to find a job if you are already working
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Originally Posted by CavSct1983
Both of these. I'm total garbage when it comes to negotiation, but I know that other people have had luck with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedave1164
Gotta do whatcha gotta do. I worked nights at Home Depot for a couple years until I got a better job. Fucked up both of my shoulders, but kept us alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robb
I'm concerned I won't make it through this year, or possibly the next and am trying to plan a way to just retire early (sort of) but have also been passively looking and networking when safe. It's hard to network the same field when you're gainfully employed in an industry.
No CC debt, no car payments, health ins is through the wife's employer. Unfortunately, too much of her pay goes to student loan debt for her and my son. They're up to their eyeballs in it.
I'm concerned current employer is creating a paper trail for employees that don't end up meeting their "goals" to deny unemployment claims and any sort of severance pay. Problem for me is they have slashed our feeder system (presales/architecture/sales) so I don't have the product to work, While at the same time, increasing goals and placing other restrictions on deals that make it harder to meet as a whole. Sadly, it appears the company is changing direction and if you're a square peg, you're not going through the round hole to the other side.
I could use my employee stock payout minus penalties to make my mortgage and the basic household bills for the 5 years they can take to pay out as I'm over the cap on lump sum payout, but would rather roll that into another retirement plan. I have only 6 months (net pay) salary in savings at the moment, with a couple big hits coming (taxes) and some home & auto repairs that will cut into that. We've taken some big, unexpected tax hits and a few other events that depleted the savings I had built up prior.
Hoping I don't have to hit the 401K before 59-1/2 and take that extra tax penalty hit. I will probably hit SS as soon as I'm eligible if it's still around. Trying to cut way back on everyday expenses but it seems the cash outflow demand never slows. If I had a stock portfolio the size of my 401K, I could probably retire early. Hoping the market gains keep up for a while as I made a killing in the last 12 months. OTOH, I'm concerned my leverage in higher risk holdings are going to bite me when the big dip comes. Hope in one hand, shit in the other right?
Getting hired in IT these days at 56 and with a narrow product focus on a dying market and little mgmt experience is tough. I thought I could stay behind the keyboard forever, but it's proven to be a fallacy. I can PM from the technical side pretty well because I'm extremely pedantic in that regard, but was never formally trained and don't always handle difficult customers as well as I should.
Getting hired in IT these days at 56 and with a narrow product focus on a dying market and little mgmt experience is tough. I thought I could stay behind the keyboard forever, but it's proven to be a fallacy. I can PM from the technical side pretty well because I'm extremely pedantic in that regard, but was never formally trained and don't always handle difficult customers as well as I should.
That was my wife's problem, shrinking market for the field. The state decided to downsize, eliminating close to retirement personnel . She had 3.5 yrs till retirement. No cross training or internal hiring. They did offer her a custodial job @ $9.20 hr, snow removal a must attend requirement.
Now after a few years with the town (PT) she's done @ 59 1/2. We've been able to get by due to little debt other than the house, which is this close >< to paid off
Wish you and others good luck.
Ageism is an unfortunate, hard truth. I've seen it first hand and it was quite ugly. I was quitting a job because my bosses were scum-sucking liberal dickbags, but agreed to stay on for my 2 weeks and help them hire my replacement. They literally said that they didn't want to hire someone with lots of experience because "He's too old" and "Why is he going for this job with his experience? It's way more than this position calls for... something's not right!" - Yeah you stupid Fs, it's a difficult economy and this guy is just trying to get back on his feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Circuits
I normally don't wish harm on anyone and can't think of anyone else I've felt this way about, but those 2 f_tards deserved every misery they earned for themselves.
Look at .gov side. I dunno if it's just my particular location, but a lot of our Engineers/Architects are older guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
Brutal - you can draw from your 401k before 59 1/2 without penalty. I sat down with fidelity when I was 55 and they explained it to us. A few co-workers have checked with their financial planners after I told them and were surprised it is possible. A co-worker just retired in Dec. at 58 and is drawing without penalty. I believe the main point is you have to identify a withdrawal amount and stick to it until 59 1/2. So, be sure it's enuf for what you will need and account for a possible unexpected expense.
Check with your financial planner to verify and get the details. Hopefully, it's not something you will have to work thru. Good luck.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by sroz
The company did offer early diversification from the stock plan two years ago, but it wasn't the right timing for me, nor did I meet the requirements anyway. No indication if/when they will offer it again.
I think I should probably start reaching out to a planner to go through some of these what-if's so I can sleep a little better at night.
Thanks, How is your AS/400 friend doing at finding work?Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
P.S. I know Cabela's was looking for someone, but it required a relocate to Sydney NE, Omaha, or a commute to Westminster (longshot location) and no telecommute. However, I haven't seen the position posted still for a while. However, that place is a grinder from what I've heard over the years.
OP, BTW, sorry to go off the rails in your thread.
Unsure. I think he is just consulting now.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
"Thank you for applying for the Engineering Documentation Specialist at *** *** Systems. At this time, the position has been eliminated due to restructuring. As such, we must rescind our offer of employment."
Damnit! it just keeps getting better and better...
Eek. You could always write back that they might need help in documenting the restructuring and how to integrate seamlessly with the transition from the old system?
Keep at it! You'll get something eventually.
I've been following this thread and one thing I want to add about LinkedIn is that on top of a lot of jobs being posted there, the social networking side of it can be used in unique ways. For instance, if you're interested in a position at a company you can see if any of your contacts have a direct relationship with the hiring manager, recruiter or someone else in the company. Having an introduction can be a huge asset if there are lots of people applying. I get contacted at least once or twice a month to give feedback about a candidate to a hiring manager at our company and others in the tech industry.
I used LinkedIn to get my current job (10 years ago). I was working for a large tech company and decided I'd had enough, I looked up the competitor I had been dealing with for the previous year and found their two employees in Colorado. I sent both of them a connection request in LinkedIn with an explanation of who I was and why I was interested in joining and 6 weeks later I was here. Not many job sites where you can do something like that.
I'm strongly considering reaching out to some of the competition... I do have a few old acquaintances at one or two of them and there's never been any adversarial issues or bad blood/bad mouthing of any parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by th3w01f
Just not sure they're actively looking for anyone with my particular set of skills, or someone in the industry my age that isn't in management... Seems these job slots just don't come up, which may explain how they're getting filled without advertisement.
I'm really in a quandary. I keep believing that my pipeline is going to run out, but mysteriously, we've managed to sign up enough work to string me along a little longer. I'm loyal enough to the client's not to just walk away and leave them high and dry, yet anxious about my future if I don't actively work to make a move.
Regardless, I really think the tap runs dry Q3 except for a few annual support contracts that just don't generate enough work/revenue to keep me above my utilization requirement. The client's are also loyal to me, but my non-compete is likely to kill any potential carry over unless I can work a deal for the company to relinquish them.
Just thought I'd report in, in case anyone else is in my shoes.
I got an offer the other day, another contract/temp job which really disappoints me, but it's a well timed band-aid or a turniquet as the case may be. I've used up all my unemployment and was working through our savings. I've applied to over 800 positions I felt qualified for here in the Denver metro area, so it isn't easy, or it hasn't been for me at 58. Only slightly better than fast food wages again but frankly I'm happy to have it.
I was on Indeed every single day, including weekends, had my share of interviews but it's damn rare I come in first place. It shouldn't be, there's no reason for it, but at least I have a little cash flow again.
FYI I believe non compete clauses are unenforceable in CO if it interferes with your ability to find work. See the attorney generals web page. Unless you are sharing company secrets you should be good.
Robb, that's great news that you at least have something. I think getting up and going to work will be less stressful than the search and worry. And who knows... maybe they'll keep you on or you'll make a connection for a better position.
Good luck all.
It's a bit scary to think about 20 years from now whether I will still be on the cutting edge of my career vs being the old guy that has been here 30 years.