Well that's the rub, ain't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
So what's your answer?
Here's a nitty gritty of the actual "law" behind it: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...-disturbances-
Well that's the rub, ain't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
So what's your answer?
Here's a nitty gritty of the actual "law" behind it: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...-disturbances-
I also had to look it up. I think it's that I generally don't care what people's opinions are so rarely read up on them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Except for yours....you can pretend that you were asked...
Looking back at the photos I'm think you might be right. The whole set of photos is weird...but weird crap happens on a regular basisQuote:
Originally Posted by Ah Pook
Its actually called a "CONUS" .Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
To understand where the Antifa movement is headed, and to understand what domestic enemies are, read up on the Weather Underground and Bill Ayers. Some of these people became university professors, and all became recently well funded.
Shooting them in the face is not out of the question.
I worry about the day someone has had enough of these antics and decides to do something. I fear it becomes the second "shot heard around the world". I also believe that is exactly what the left wants from all of this.
I don't know this site, but came across this on facebook today. Video of AntiFa range day embedded in page
http://www.patdollard.com/antifa-res...idation-video/
or, here's the same vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CywFbSdMVx0
Yup, just like the big fight scene at the end of Twilight, Breaking Dawn-Part II.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
That'd go over well in front a jury.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
"You say you killed these people based on similarities you believed them to have with other people from the recent past?"
"Yes, sir."
"And these anti-American monsters from the past, what did you say happened to them when left unchecked?"
"They became teachers and professors."
"Surely they killed people at some point?"
"Not to my knowledge."
I read about their "range day" apparently most of the firearms they had were fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
Here, I'll make it easy for you:Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground
ETA: I've realized there's really nothing I can do to help you, considering the Twilight reference.
I'm aware, but if that link to Wikipedia was all it took to justify shutting down some faction you disagree with by using lethal force, it would have been done already.
I most certainly don't disagree with it. I really do understand why it's there and am happy it is. I think there are domestic enemies that are far more mainstream and much more dangerous than these antifa douche bags. I don't think it's a bad thing to take pride in killing bad guys. Bad guys need to be gone. Nothing wrong with enjoying your job.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
However, it was the "love to" part and the dares specifically that turned me off. Why the hell would anyone LOVE to have a chance to kill American citizens? He didn't say he'd love to fight for the American freedom and restore the individual liberty and constitutional government to it's rightful limited power. He said he and others would love the chance to kill Americans and dared them to take another step to violence so he would have the excuse.
WISHING that people would become domestic ememies is very different than being willing to defend against domestic enemies.
I am willing to defend my house against intruders. I wouldn't even feel bad about killing a bad guy who broke in, threatening my family. But do I go around daring criminals to break in because the idea of killing them gives me a hard-on? Hell no. That's crazy. Why the hell would I want to encourage someone, who may very well be the scum of the earth and have no good place on it, to take the step to threatening my house? No sane person would do that. But that's what this guy did.
Has this been vetted to have come from an actual vet or service member?
There's a reference I will happily never understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Me either, now if Irving had referenced a man's movie like Dirty Harry I'd understand. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Very good explanation. Wishing for something that would likely tear the country apart so you can get a "stateside kill". Anyone who wishes for that is just a douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
Another thing I'll never understand about people wishing for revolution. They always assume it's going to turn out in their favor...like nothing can ever go wrong.
Are you aware of Bill Ayers and WU history?Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
They blew up three of their own while making bombs.
That video was terrifying - terrifying I say. <sarcasm> Why? Let's see, they're shooting long guns at handgun distances. Ooooh, marksmen. Then, if you check out the second shooter, he's supporting the front of his AR by pulling back on the mag where it meets the well. Anyone here ever try that WITHOUT resulting in a FTF? Yeah, me either.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
I can't abide by true fascists either, but today that term has been redefined to mean anyone not on the far left. If being of conservative and constitutionally sound ideology now makes me a fascist, I'll wear that badge proudly. If we want to maintain the true definition of what a fascist is, I'll condemn them with my dying breath.
Now, as to the whole wanting a "stateside kill" or hoping for civil war... Where do I begin? I'm with Brother hollohas; I desire neither. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that, given the situation, I'll go out of my way to avoid either possibility; but... Again, as Hollohas stated, should the safety or well-being of myself, family or friends be in jeopardy due to the actions of these Antifas or any other left-wing (and right-wing for that matter) group, I will do everything in my power to protect me and mine.
Many here have said that this group (the Antifas) pose no threat. I disagree. I believe that they are one element of useful idiots being hyped up by a person or persons unknown acting as a master puppeteer. Look at all of these groups (Antifas, Occupy, BLM, feminist protesters, LGBT protesters, Green Party, and on and on). All of these groups are curiously well funded and are typically protesting either totally bogus issues or issues that they themselves could resolve without protest through hard work and effort. Many of the "spontaneous" and "impromptu" large scale protests in the last 5 years have amazingly had hundreds of signs printed up for their cause-du-jour. Someone(s) manipulating these people into believing they're among the most egregiously victimized group in our nation. There is definitely an effort to destabilize this country and more and more people are falling sway to the false hype. So, are the Antifas really any sort of threat? Likely not by themselves, but combined with the other victim groups they certainly have the potential to become very dangerous. Look at the progression of violence coming out of thes groups over the last 8-10 years. While it's M-80's today, what will it be in a year or two when they see they're not getting what they've been told them deserve? A look at the history of many other nations can give you an idea of where this is going and it doesn't bode well for us. Can we simply dismiss the Antifa movement as essentially harmless? By themselves, sure, but if you're looking at the whole puzzle you should at least be concerned.
If you say in one breathe that their ideals can never take over the country, and then in the next say that you're defending the Constitution from these people, then you have some cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, something like...Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
http://youtu.be/_VrFV5r8cs0
Excellent points made by Hollohas and TheGinsue. Thanks guys.
Never underestimate the enemy.
Allow me to put a little context into the phrase "stateside kill" in the modern use vernacular, since it appears this author has bastardized it. The widespread use of it came from Mat "M Best" Best, former US Army Ranger and now YouTube/Internet celebrity (also CEO of ART15 clothing company). He first coined the term during a video where he had hoped ISIS would try to invade the US so he and his buddies could attain a "stateside kill." To mean, kill an enemy combatant while here in the US instead of on deployment. It was in no way to be attributed to the killing of US citizens who have different beliefs (as far as I read into it) by US veterans.
Now, if the US government wants to declare Antifa enemies of the state, that's a whole different can of worms... I just find it ironic that they call themselves "Anti-Facist" when they actually are promoting facism by shutting down different views, regardless of the First Amendment to the Constitution. Clearly they're just all idiots and/or liberal lemmings following the "cool" trend.
The term "cool" being highly subjective, of course. I've never considered anyone advertising their stupidity to be "cool".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
True. I've never considered anything liberals jump on board with in the last 25 years as "cool."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman