Mine works great. Two or three mags practicing and I was able to hit 1-2-3-4-5-6 rounds in succession. Couldn't keep count much past that. And it's pretty easy to dump a 30 on a life-sized target inside of 10 or 15 yards.
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I saw two for sale on a mountain community forum (Conifer/Bailey area) for $200...one for an AR and one for an AK.
http://www.pinecam.com/forum/viewtop...62953#p1762953
Slide Fire STock $169.95 at Optics Planet. Get'em while they're HOT!
https://www.opticsplanet.com/slide-f...fle-stock.html
Question -- do they require a separate, special buffer tube or do they work w/ mil-spec buffer tubes?
ETA: I see the description, but in looking at them before, conversion kit buffer tubes were coming up, so I found that confusing if they work with COTS/Milspec
For those that have experience with a bump stock or slide fire, how easy, or how much practice does it take to dump a 60 round mag or 100 round drum with the cadence such as in the videos of the vegas incident.? Just curious as I have read that it is really hard to do that.
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And now the NRA is on board with more regulations on these.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41519815Quote:
The National Rifle Association has called for "additional regulations" on bump-stocks, a rapid fire device used by the Las Vegas massacre gunman.
The group said: "Devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
Republicans have said they would consider banning the tool, despite years of resisting any gun control.
Lawmakers plan to hold hearings and consider a bill to outlaw the device.
The NRA called on Thursday for federal regulators to review the legality of bump-stocks.
A chat I had with optics planet.Quote:
Michael: That item is currently on back order and we have a very high amount of back orders. The website is currently showing the estimated ship date of 14-25 days based on when we get the item in stock from Slide Fire
XXX: Is there an order coming in or is that just an estimated 14-25 days?
Michael: We do have an order scheduled to arrive, but Slide Fire has updated showing many orders might be on hold due to the recent events in Las Vegas but at this current time they are still showing we are scheduled to get the items by the end of Oct.
Pretty soon there will be a Federal NO RAPID FIRE law enacted like some indoor ranges have.
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I think the recent NRA move is a fire break measure to forestall more intrusive and demanding reviews and legislation. The public mood is looking for some kind of action -- just saying "no" would be seen as obstructionist and cause people to reject arguments made against the other measures that Democrats are calling for. The very act of calling for a review is somewhat of a stalling tactic -- it gives time for the immediate public anger and desire for action to ebb away and allow reason to trickle in.
Aloha is right on track.
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We have a R majority, no one is losing seats over not doing something about guns. Fuck the NRA, and the libshit "R"s like the one from New York.
Saying this is ok is like fudds being ok with anything that doesn't hurt their hunting shotguns. It may be a niche product, but it's even sillier to consider banning when it's easy to do without a stock without (just not as well) but can be recreated at home really too. Bump boards etc.
Ceeding this is horseshit unless it's part of a trade for the suppressor bill. Even that is questionable but at least it's a trade. Not like caving will get any recognition from left voters.
Case in point.
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What you're ignoring is that when things with this kind of visibility happen, it causes a huge swell amongst the self-described moderates who "want to do something". They don't know what "something" is but they know it's not nothing. When this happens, you have to have a multi-pronged response. If you just say "no" to everything as many want to do, you risk being labeled as such and all your responses get ignored. "Oh, I don't care what they say about universal background checks or high capacity magazines because they wouldn't even discuss ______".
The pressure to "do something" will ease as time goes on but we have to get past the ground swell created by the immediacy of the event. That immediacy is precisely what the gun control totalitarians are trying to take advantage of and precisely what we have to take from them. They know this as well as we do and that's why they keep exerting constant pressure.
As Bruce Lee said, "be like water." I think that's exactly what the NRA is trying to do right now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/b...mp-stocks.html
Walmart and Cabel's remove SF stocks from their website
The problems are that:
1. They will NEVER allow the pendulum to swing the other direction, so any consession is a permanent loss this side of a civil war.
2. There will ALWAYS be another event which allows them to take the next incremental step - and if an event doesn't happen naturally then one will be engineered. This pattern will continue indefinitely as long as results are obtained (see point #3)
3. If LE dealt with kidnapping/terrorist/ransom demands in that way, we'd see no end in escalations - my understanding that this is the very reason why acquiescing to ransom/demands is almost universally rejected in LE circles (if this is incorrect, someone with direct experience here can chime in)
4. They don't listen to anything we say anyway, so fuckem' - go into it with the understanding that they will NEVER be happy, even (especially) if they get what they want, and understand that we can ignore their pissing and moaning just as effectively as they can ignore logic, reality, and cause/effect relationships...
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If you give a mouse a cookie.
Conservatives never seem to learn the lesson. The left does not give, sway or concede. Compromise to them is for everyone else to give them what they want, either immediately or incrementally.
The Left doesn't give, sway or concede but the Middle does. Look at how attitudes toward guns and gun control moved back toward the center and common sense even during the Obama years with Democratic control of the Senate, House, Hollywood, and MSM. Losing the center by appearing obstructionist is how the Left gets to implement their more heinous policies. That's why it's a multi-pronged defense ... why you keep them talking about bump stocks, you counter their BS and lies regarding suppressors and universal background checks. You point out the inconsistency between their stance that poor people can't afford IDs to vote but apparently aren't important when it comes to self-defense because the Left wants to require IDs to buy ammo as well as guns.
I don't have a problem with apparent retreat on a small issue if it gives us the ability to wage effective battle on the larger ones.
I don't disagree with this concept, but I also can't remeber a single victory which has been achieved in this fight. Things like lack of a renewed AWB, ATF backpeddling on bans of M855/pistol-braces/etc. are stalemates, not actual victories (any recent "victory" can only be consided as such when viewed as managing to avoid a crushing loss, but definately no more than that)
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Just ask them why do they trust you with one gun but not ten? You'll usually find out that they would prefer you have no guns because if they trust you with one gun, ten shouldnt be any different but they can't handle that thought. So they revert to "no guns!" once you try to show the holes in their thinking.
I stopped by Walmart off Bowles/470. The ammunition shelf was fully stocked with all the rollback stickers still in place; there were no signs of panic buying (so far)
In a fair fight, yes the middle can be swayed. While I respect your opinion and see your logic, I don't share your optimism or faith with the ability of the NRA or the GOP to deal with the left. Regardless of public opinion on the right, middle or left. This is going to end badly for us gun lovers, with no concessions.
To use another analogy. The liberals are like the bird in the "playing chess with a pigeon story." Unfortunately, the leadership on our side think the game is checkers and are taking strategy from Zap Brannigans Big Book of War.
"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."
CDNN has plenty of 6920s for $799, so I guess that is as good as any proof of no panic.
I think panic buying is mainly on slidefire/bumpfire/bumpski, and echo/BFS3/3mr type of stuff for now.