Don't get me wrong, people that have a legitimate reason for a service animal have my blessings, not that they need it, but a pox on those scamming the system
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Don't get me wrong, people that have a legitimate reason for a service animal have my blessings, not that they need it, but a pox on those scamming the system
I still think a service gorilla would be the best choice. 500lbs. On a leash of course. I love this thread.
Now I'm all hungry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
If I were a landlord that had a majority of prospective renters with support animals I would just make the damage deposit (for everyone so not to discriminate) like 6,000$ hahahahaha
That's a pretty short sighted blanket statement. There are many legit service animals that are not only for the blind or deaf, or even folks that truly suffer PTSD, but those with serious medical conditions that the dog's are trained to deal with - like seizures, diabetes, allergies, etc. http://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/10-...d-what-they-doQuote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
I do agree the service/support animal thing is significantly abused and something should be done about that, but there are many valid reasons to have a service animal besides blindness.
Yea, but he only chopped off the tail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
For you guys wanting monkeys didn’t you see “Planet of the Apes”???!!! Doesn’t end well [ROFL2]
Thought I would rehash this thread with this link. "Emotional Support Dog" bites someone.
http://kdvr.com/2018/02/24/emotional...ild-on-flight/
No leash, but I'm pretty sure I had to sit next to this service animal on a flight earlier this year...Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
It sucked.
I don't understand why it isn't regulated like handicapped parking.
Because people will throw a fit and the problem is that people with some power will listen....or an attorney willQuote:
Originally Posted by Scanker19
WHY? because everyone wants special privilege.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scanker19
Here's an example. While in CA 1 year we stop for lunch, i tell the daughter should be no problem with parking since i have my hang tag with me. Laughing she says DAD, this is California, EVERYONE'S DISABLED. Sure as shit there were 4 rows of HANDICAP PARKING ONLY signs.
4 rows! probably 1/4 of those i saw getting in and out of their vehicle were wearing jogging clothes. But i shouldn't judge since we all know being disabled doesn't mean it's a visible and physical to the eye.
People game the system 24/7 It's those like me who suffer for it
So you can get a handicapped plate/sticker/hangie thing and shit if you have some mental problem but can walk just fine?
ETA: oh I see now. The close parking is so the support animal doesn't have to walk that far. [Sarcasm2]
Attachment 73617Attachment 73618Maybe some of these people should look into getting a service gerbil. I mean seriously, they wouldn’t offend other people, could take their gerbil anywhere with discretion and feel like they could conceivably get through the day.
U.S. Department of Service Gerbils
https://m.facebook.com/US-Department...2697007329715/
I can walk fairly well and you wouldn't think I'd have a handicap hang tag. I just can't walk very far. Pain is a bitch, I hide it well. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
[ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant H.
My poor wife was stuck on a flight next to a millennial that she said must not have bathed for days or knew what deodorant was.
Those who never experienced it, have no understanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by gnihcraes
Word.
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
A bit long, but it expresses my sentiment on this matter better than I can.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/27088...ets-matt-walsh
A college student from Florida has a harrowing tale to tell.
Belen Aldecosea says she ran into trouble when she attempted to board a Spirit Airlines flight with her emotional support hamster, Pebbles. It seems that Spirit has a policy forbidding rodents from flying in the main cabin with actual human beings, even if they are the sort of rodents who provide emotional support to the sort of people who need emotional support from rodents.
Belen was in a bind. Forced to decide between forgoing the flight or forgoing her beloved hamster — the hamster that she claims she needs — she decided to flush poor Pebbles down the toilet. Belen, of course, blames Spirit Airlines for all of this. But Pebbles, if she could speak from her watery grave, would probably blame the madwoman who drowned her in the bathroom.
This news comes only days after another passenger of questionable sanity tried to board a United Airlines flight with an emotional support peacock. She was also turned away. I'm not sure if she flushed the peacock down the toilet.
Now, I support anyone's right to use a service animal if they have a legitimate disability. But an emotional support animal isn't a service animal any more than a skateboard is a wheelchair. You may find "comfort" in your rat or your bird or your pig or your llama, but you can't turn an airplane into a flying zoo just because it makes you comfortable. Your comfort is not the concern of everyone else, and the rest of us are significantly less comfortable when forced to share our accommodations with a bunch of non-human critters. A blind man who uses a service dog is being reasonable and asking the rest of us to make a reasonable concession for his sake. A college student who carries her rodent around like a purse is being selfish and demanding that the rest of us acquiesce to her selfishness.
This, anyway, seems to be the analysis of most critics of the emotional support animal epidemic. They say that these people are self-centered and immature, and the whole thing is just another symptom of the increasing infantilization of American culture. It is that, to be sure. It's also, we should note, dishonesty. A woman who pretends her favorite pet is a service animal can be considered no better than a woman who pretends to be wheelchair-bound so that she can go to the front of the line at Disney World. For some reason we don't treat the emotional support animal scam with the same contempt that we treat a car illegally parked in a handicap spot, but we should. It's immoral as well as annoying and childish.
But I think the problem runs deeper. What lies at the root of the emotional support animal invention is the increasing humanization of animals in western society. A person who insists on bringing their animal everywhere suffers from the delusion that his animal is basically another person and deserves to be treated as such. It's no surprise that people would develop this bizarre idea in a country where we take our pets to spas and buy alcohol-free wine for our dogs and overall spend **69 billion dollars a year** feeding and pampering our animals. In our culture, we tend to empathize more with animals than our fellow human beings, and many in my generation prefer the company of lesser creatures so much that they've decided to have pets rather than kids. Of course that's not nearly as sick and deranged as the large share of parents who have both pets and kids, and consider their "fur children" and their real children to be equal. In fact, many Americans prefer to spend time with their pets than their spouses. It seems, given the choice, a certain percentage of parents would rather stow the baby in a cage below deck and bring the dog on board.
Years from now, historians will look at our culture's devolution into pet worship and write many volumes attempting to diagnose it. But I think the cause is quite clear, and has already been mentioned above: selfishness. To love another human being is to sacrifice. It is to come out of yourself and put someone else's needs above your own. To love a child or a spouse is to serve, to give. Modern man is not willing or able to forget himself or put anyone higher than himself, so he targets his affections toward his gerbil or his poodle instead. That way he can feel like he's "loving" something without actually having to do anything or change his life in any significant way.
But it's not really love. Yes, some people do love their pets, and love them in a healthy way, by loving them in accordance with the natural order of things. But people who love their pets more than they love people don't actually love pets at all. They don't love anything. More precisely, what they love about the pet is what it does for them and how it makes them feel. They love themselves through their pets. The animal is a blank slate that the loveless modern man can turn into a little avatar of himself. He worships his dog because his dog worships him.
People are more complicated. They will not lie at your feet. They will not slobber over you. They will not sit there to be rubbed or cuddled as long as you wish. They are not accessories that you can carry around for "emotional support." Their needs are more complex. It is work to love them, and it involves an emotional risk. This is all too much for a selfish person so he retreats to the lesser, simpler, self-centered "love" of his cat or his parrot. And, as I've found, he's often pretty straightforward about his selfish motivations.
A few weeks ago, I tweeted a simple observation noting how we tend to "idolize and humanize" our pets, which, I said then and say now, is a sign of the moral and intellectual decline of western civilization. Thousands of enraged people responded, incensed at the very notion that there could be anything at all wrong with humanizing something that is not human. Many of them justified their idol worship by explaining that a dog has never lied to them, cheated them, stolen from them, or stabbed them in the back. They surmise that dogs must be "better than people" because they have never been personally inconvenienced by a dog.
Of course, a tree or a rock or an orange has never lied to anyone, either. A paper towel has never cut me off in traffic. A pair of shoes has never taken too long ordering food in the drive thru while I'm starving to death a few cars behind. A box of crayons has never texted in a movie theater. A dandelion has never deleted the show I had saved on the DVR. Plants, animals, and inanimate objects have never committed any evil acts at all, because they are not capable of committing evil acts. It is not a mushroom's superior virtue that prevents it from becoming a terrorist; it is the fact that it's a mushroom. Your dog cannot hurt you like your brother can hurt you, because he is a dog. It's not that he's making better moral choices than the humans in your life, it's that he's not making any moral choices at all.
There is another side to this coin. Animals are not capable of evil but neither are they capable of virtue. They cannot be cowardly but neither can they be courageous. They cannot tell you a lie but neither can they tell you the truth. They cannot stab you in the back but neither can they empathize with you. They cannot build bombs but neither can they build cities. It is a real shame that so many people prefer a creature that lacks the capacity for evil over a creature who has the capacity for goodness.
It is pure unadulterated narcissism that leads a man in this direction. He is rejecting the entire human race because the human race requires too much of him. It is not subservient enough. It will not lie down and lick his palms, so he dismisses it outright. And here is the most tragic thing of all: while he protects himself from greater pains by idolizing a lesser being, he has excluded himself from the greater joy that comes from loving a greater being. I'm afraid that one day, when he's dying alone with only his mutt to mourn him, he'll regret that choice.
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With my knee, spine and surgery history, I could probably get a handicap tag easily. But I can walk fine, 3 miles is no problem, so I don't "need" a tag and wouldn't use it anyway. I'd feel guilty as shit.
But I've known people that would be tickled shitless to find a hang tag in a parking lot, so they could "beat the system" and steal a benefit that they felt they were just as entitled to as anybody else. And they wouldn't feel a damn bit of guilt for it.
I'm not dissin anyone who needs one. You need one. You can't walk very far.Quote:
Originally Posted by gnihcraes
Can a marathon runner get one if he some other disability? Maybe he's deaf or has 1 arm.
I can't understand the efforts that able bodied people go to in order to park one spot closer to the entrance, especially at any type of store. No matter how close you park, you're walking the entire time you're in the store anyway. What difference does it make?
Actually, I guess I do understand, but it just seems dumb.
I went to Home Depot on 120 and Sheridan today, and there were about 3 to 4 people with dogs.
During the self checkout, the dog was jumping and putting both paws on my left arms. I was so busy that I didn't even care, and just proceed the checkout.
2 other kids including my kid was saying ahhhhh the dog is jumping on me!
This kinda made another delay on few other self checkout.
Assuming people at a self checkout (including ppl in line) makes $60/hr, the cost of having a dog in the store illegally (or against store policy) was about $12 lost in time.
$1/min x 12 people= $12
If dog excrement was found, it would be exponentially worse.
Just wait till a fake service dog is shot for acting like that.
Some people are terrified of dogs, and one jumping on them could make them think they are being attacked by a vicious dog. Bam.
Doctors note / script is all it takes.Quote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
At a big box store [LOL] if the employees are breaking the $15-20 level i'd be surprisedQuote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
There's a downloadable form that you need a doctor to write down a few details and sign. Take the form to where you would get your vehicle registration and they can either issue plates or 2 placards. The placards are free. It's almost too easy. The competition around here for handicap parking spaces can be nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
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Is this a bad thing? They're doing us all a favor by not spawning more littleQuote:
Originally Posted by MOLON LABE
liberalsnarcissists.
I can think of several flights I've been on where I'd much rather have had Fluffy in the row ahead of me than "sweet little Aiden."Quote:
Originally Posted by MOLON LABE
Ahead is better than behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumline
While I can sort of empathize as I have young grandson's, I had a little f*cker behind me kicking my seat on my last flight. At least the parent finally recognized it and made him stop.
The cost of customers time at the checkout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Maybe the next time I fly I can say my children are my emotional support animals so they can fly for free so long as they can sit by my feet hahahaha
I would have told the owner to control their animal. Seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
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I saw a dog at Home Depot today. I was ready to kick it's brains out if it misbehaved even a little bit. But it didn't. It just stood there and didn't even look at anyone. I left the store absolutely furious that I had nothing to complain about online when I got home.
If a dog is jumping all over someone at a store and they’re all freaked out I wonder how it would turn out for them if they break leather?
As to Mr Prena's experience, I'd have personally put a knee in the dog's chest. You generally don't have to do it hard, but they get the point. If owner says anything, then you have the polite conversation that starts with "Control your fucking dog!"
You win the thread. That's my standard M.O. for a dog that jumps unless commanded to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
For lickers, I usually grab their tongue or lower jaw(if I'm confident I won't get bitten). Can't stand a licky dog.
All the girls in the family refuse to knee the dog. I don't know how many times I've pointed out to them that the dog will jump on them, but not me. It's because I only had to knee her a few times before she got the point. When I come home and she's excited to see me, if I don't immediately start petting her, she makes a point to sit down as hard as she can right in front of me. She's so deliberate about it that it usually gets my attention and I pretty her for doing the right thing.
Thanks for the tip.
I seriously dislike animals in private/corporate retail business setting. What I cannot stand is bringing a dog to an restaurant.
If those dogs start shedding near my plate, I am going to put my dandruff on the dog owners food plate.