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Bottom line...fly that f***ing quadcopter over my property without permission and see how long it lasts... See you in court if that is your choice.
I bet you couldn't hit my race quad if you tried... LOL! :D
The OP said that LEO has been contacted, and said too bad so sad...
We don't know if the OP's inlaws have tried the neighborly thing of trying to talk to said quad flier, but that would be the place to start.
As Irving alluded to, pissing people off is usually not a good plan. Many of the people I know that fly quads would be vindictive and creative in retaliation for handling this poorly. If one is annoying, dozens will be flat out infuriating...
My point was in my opinion it's not reasonable to expect privacy anywhere outside anymore. With readily available inexpensive high resolution cameras, drones, and other technology you can be seen anywhere anytime when outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickNorris
This reminds me of all the pitbull threads. Pick a side, pick a side.
Pitbulls vs Drones, starring David Arquette. I'd totally watch that on Netflix.
And it is easy to identify which members own drones and pitbulls.
Fly a camera over my house and we will work out damages in court.
Lots of tough talk in here. Just like me boycotting stores that I wouldn't go to in the first place.
If person A has a right to fly a quadcopter in certian airspace doesn't person B have the right to fly their harpoon in the same airspace? If the two just happened to crash then what?
That would be my take.. Get your own suicide quadcopter. Oops, I didn't see the other copter until it was too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by izzy
Sounds fair, expensive, but fair. I think most discussions like this aren't really worth a discussion though. You have one group of people who imagine one situation, then another group that imagine another situation, and everyone talks past each other.
Neighbor was contacted, and it did not go well... Hence my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant H.
Other authorities have been contacted. I'll keep this updated.
But thanks guys!
Are other neighbors being bothered as well? I think a group of people might go over better.
Person A would have the obligation to report the incident to the FAA, and if they were operating under 14CFR107 or the Section 333 exemption, that obligation would have the weight of Federal law. Depending on the nature of the collision and property damage, they would also be obligated to report to the NTSB. Personal (not professional) opinion only, knowingly inviting The Man further into your life by doing this sort of thing rarely works out well for anybody. And in general, it is better to engage with the law as it is, rather than the law as we think it should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by izzy
Maddog - Your parents may not have legal remedy to stop the guy from flying, but there may be civil remedies depending on what he is doing. If he is intentionally harrassing his neighbors, there are civil statutes that may address his actions rather than the tools he is using. You or your parents may want to review what is happening with a competent legal professional, specifically focusing on Florida HB1027 and SB766, and the drone operator's actions and intents.
What's the deal with these anyway? They are essentially just RC aircraft, there are rules on where you can fly RC aircraft.
Here's what I can dig up..
- Your drone must be registered if it weighs over .55 lbs
- You cannot fly over anyone not directly participating in the operation of the drone
I guess I would see if the guy has his drone registered or not.. If not he can't fly it.
If they are using it for commercial use there are more stringent requirements such as pilot certification and so on. if they are posting video online that are monetized that could put them in to the area of commercial use.
It might be worth contacting the local FAA office, they may have more power than the local PD.
Recreational flying:
https://www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_fliers/
Commercial Use:
https://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets...m?newsId=22615
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...se14.2.107_111
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I was being a dumbass mostly when I asked that. Seems like the in-laws of the OP are in a no win situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo
Or after shooting down a 8,000$ photographers drone doing work in the area that offended you so greatly by flying by or over the property a bit, enjoy catching a felony possibly and your gun rights lost over being so triggered by a drone. I 100% get it, if someone is out sunbathing or one was hanging out directly in front of your window or something. Folk don't realize often A: It's not actually on your property because visually telling height and distance of a small flying object is very innaccurate, B: Even if one is inside your property line 80 feet up, it's quite likely to not even have a camera focused on your house but rather looking somewhere else. Generally To be flown via camera, the view is largely straight forward and a little down and not a super magnified image. But everyone acts like it's a government high res zoomed in ground scanning probing.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
FWIW, I don't own or operate any. Had some toy level ones in the past, so unlike the comments of "who owns a drone/pit", I don't have a dog in this fight other than laugh at some of the guys on here that get triggered by them worse than misgendering an SJW otherkin.
Thanks for the update, because I am curious to how it plays out. Can you be more specific in what the behavior of the drone folk is? (not the being pissy about being asked to not do it, more details as far as we are talking invading a large acreage property, vs a 1/4 acre neighborhood plot, hovering high vs acrobatics sorta low around people/animals, etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
@Def90, I think the .55lb thing had been changed or otherwise overruled even if it's still on their page. This was a thing like 2 years ago when it first happened ish. I thought I recall seeing that either a court, or another agency said essentially that some of what they were trying to regulate was outside their scope or some such. I don't fly, so I'm not any better than 50/50 on being sure that I remembered that correctly. Just happened to see a news blurb or link somewhere about it.
I think Davsel owns acreage, so the likelyhood of a drone being directly over his residence is low, and if that is the case, the operator would be in error. I think most of use live in dense neighborhoods where someone having an inspection next door might be unnerving.
I'm curious how many drones don't even have cameras. Is that a thing?
Sounds to me like the operator would be out a drone.[emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Initial registration requirement was overruled because the FAA was trying to just do a rule change outside of their allowed scope.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitz19d
Then registration got added back in along with some budget bill somewhere.
Lots of organizations, gov't and otherwise, are using drones these days...police depts, assessors, etc.
Especially cheaper hobby grade which can seem large, plenty of them don't have cameras. Then a large Segment have basic cameras that take video or images that are downloaded later to view but are not used to fly. As you might guess that makes taking spy photos hard blindly recording.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Most all that have a camera have some form of a lower-res video stream back to the controller, for visual confirmation of the shot, but the high-res stuff is stored onboard until landed and downloaded later.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitz19d
Race quads don't have high res cameras, for the most part, but they do have lower-res with a video stream for FPV flying of courses. (Googles so it appears that your eyes are on the front of the quad).
I would certainly be interested in updates as this unfolds.Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
I know that I/We have been pretty careful about not annoying folks with our quads, but we also have easy access to hundreds of acres of BC open space that is never monitored or checked (except by the farmer that leases it for his cattle)...
Home security drone!
https://www.cnet.com/news/home-secur...from-prowlers/
I have a kamikaze drone ready to attack any invading drones over my property. Tell them to head to Walmart and starting learning to fly, attack from above. You can even hang paracord or strong string that will catch their props...of course it is really used to help you see which direction the drone is facing and if it is drifting on you...you are learning to fly after all![Beer]