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I donated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitter Clinger
Awesome! I will on payday. But now I have a less demanding job and can help with gathering signatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
Link to recall web site.
https://join.recallcolorado.org
I wish the recall efforts would join forces. I find several different groups that are calling for/planning petitions and they would definitely be better served if there was a combined effort.
I'd be careful with that site. It seems to only allow you to donate, but doesn't say to what you're donating. I've also read that it is a site set up by the opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by buffalobo
Ok so what do we do ? how many people will take a day off or two to protest? how many will call there sheriff and ask why do we not get our rights. Where is the state Wpatrol ? Why are they not stopping in protest it to protect our rights. there should be enough protesters to stop traffic in denver and pack the capital . When will it stop ? make a stand now call in sick make a stand or this........YOU ARE COMPLACENT !! DO YOU VOTE ? MAKE CALLS ? WRITE LETTERS ? OR DO YOU JUST HIDE AND TAKE IT ? THEN YOU WANT TO BE A PATHETIC COMPLAINER AFTER THE FACT! HIDE IN THE SHADOWS TURN AWAY AND SOON THE GIFT WILL BE ....TYRANNY!!!
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Originally Posted by spittoon
You can say this all you want. That is not reality at the State Capital.
You need to look at how fast bills are being pushed through that are controversial. They are being dropped on Friday afternoons and votes on Tuesday or Wednesday. That occurred with oil and gas bill and occurred last week on the family leave bill.
A week ago I was at an industry day at the capital. The DEMs do not care. I directly told them I put in place a hiring freeze until the the end of the legislative session to see how much damage their policies are putting on business. When they dont care that industry is telling them we have a hiring freeze and they do not care their policies are preventing employment, why do you think this is anything but a done deal? One of the representatives asked to tell us about all the reasons why Colorado is a great place to have a business. My statement was "it's not, if my house wasnt here the business would be moved to Cheyenne where they want business." They did not really care.
That said the one office that was interested in keeping business in Colorado was Sen Gardner. His representatives are setting up meetings with us because we have unique insight into some federal taxation issues and overseas business.
To put it bluntly, the State of Colorado right now doesnt give a damn about business and employment.
I wrote to Douglas County Commission, and it sounds like they are voting on a resolution Tuesday at 1:30pm in Castle Rock (open to public) to not follow any unconstitutional red flag laws.
That all sounds great...like you're a true patriot and a go-getter. Good for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by spittoon
The reality is, some people have a choice of taking days off work and going to protests or not taking days off work and providing for their families. I do agree with the calls/letters/voting part of your statement. Just a thought...you're probably not gonna get a lot of support for your protests and such by calling those you want to support your cause "pathetic complainers". Trust me...I get the passion. But there's a better way to go about it.
But, tyranny? Really? Is it really tyranny when you have a duly elected state house, senate and governor that ran on these policies and are now following up with them? Remember...a majority of the voting population voted for the democrats that are now running things. It probably doesn't look like tyranny to them.
Don't get me wrong. I don't like the ERPO nonsense any more than you and I don't even live there any longer. I truly believe that, as written, the bill is unconstitutional. But that's not up to you or me to decide.
Maybe you should take your own advice and run for the state house or senate in your district.
Apparently the Senate president, Leroy Garcia, is going to vote NO on the red flag bill
Won't matter . . . will still pass by one vote and Polis will sign it as soon as he can. Bastages.Quote:
Originally Posted by avandelay
We'll see soon enough. There are enough Ds on the fence that they've held over on the vote and with the Senate president voting no then some others may feel free to vote no. There are three active recalls for Senate and House seats going on now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsker
Hope that's true . . . this law is a steaming pile of crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by avandelay
That's my initial reaction. But there is some evidence that the recalls last time have spooked some Democrats who see the recall organizations warming up again. The D's that aren't idiots (so about half of them) realize that if there are recalls that they'll lose their stranglehold on power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsker
I'll just leave this here:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/col...-state-ag-says
And that east coast, triggered liberal, "Bud" wiser should be tarred & feathered.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Key Colorado Democrat won't support 'red flag' gun control bill
The bill was held over again today. They're discussing the miserable budget that give less than 1% of the $30+ BBBBillion proposed budget to road/bridge repairs, but gives $200+ million to fund all day kindergarten.
If this year wasn't a senate election year this would be passed and done already. None of them want to loose there cushy job's.
That guy can go f@ck himself with a rusty rake...Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
I didn't see this coming:
https://kdvr.com/2019/03/27/denver-p...red-flag-bill/
Maybe Spurlock will finaly start thinking with the Constitution and his head and not with his emotions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Ooohhh, dis gonna get good.
Yeah, Denver police union not backing it is big. The 3rd reading was supposed to be Monday and held over for three straight days. I'm hoping it was because they didn't have the votes. The union not supporting it is just more reason to vote NO unless you're just a party hack.
Denver PD supports every liberal dream that comes around. Pretty surprised they came out against this . . . but it's a horribly misguided bill, so maybe they just felt their collective consicence couldn't stand for it? Would love to see this go down and Spurlock get recalled.Quote:
Originally Posted by avandelay
I think they understand who would be at the loud end of the gun for confiscations. Maybe the bill should be amended that every ERPO needs to have a Democratic state legislator accompany them to actually hand them the notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsker
This again ^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Now get out of my head. ; )
President of Senate is also being disingenuous, he could have stopped that Bill already.
It will pass and he can say he voted against it for re-election points.
Do I have to post my observation again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
This is really bad for LE. They know it doesn't solve the problem while putting them at risk and creates all sorts of perception issues. They have to go on the record saying someone is dangerous crazy, stack up at 0300, take his guns, and then leave him to do as he pleases?!?
This never made any sense according to its stated purpose (which I don't believe is the actual purpose because I'm not stupid).
The third reading that was supposed to be this morning has been pushed to this afternoon. If they had the votes then it would be law already.
And new this morning, the Aurora Police Association joined the Denver Police union in opposition to the ERPO bill - LINK
https://www.sentinelcolorado.com/0tr...red-flag-bill/
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AURORA | Flying in the face of Aurora Police Department brass, the Aurora police union on Thursday announced it is formally opposing the so-called “red flag” bill currently weaving through the state Legislature.
In a Facebook post published around 9 a.m. on Thursday, the Aurora Police Association wrote it is joining the Denver police union in condemning HB19-1177, which would allow family members and law enforcement officials to petition courts to strip weapons from people deemed to be a threat to themselves or others.
“Our members have clearly expressed to us their concerns about the constitutionality of such legislation and are deeply concerned about the lack of due process in the current bill,” the Aurora union wrote on Facebook. “Police officers understand the value in addressing the real problem, the mental health of individuals in crisis. The problem cannot be successfully addressed by restricting access to tools while ignoring the mental health considerations.”
The Democrats in the Senate don't have the votes without putting a few senators in jeopardy. I think the 11th hour DPD, Aurora, etc. are last minute negotiations to help the Democrats save face and not take a vote on it. I think it is a good possibility that it will be postponed indefinitely.
Our only potential saving grace this time around is how much worse this rendition was than the last one. Both are bad, but this one is potato x 100. Hopefully this gets killed off, but even if that happens they'll be back with something that still sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MED
Passed on a 18-17 vote....
Either vote out or recall the traitors in swing districts who voted for this abomination.
I just don't see how this garbage can pass muster constitutionally. The complete lack of due process is scary.
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Originally Posted by Ramsker
And hopefully some do a recall of Senate President Leroy Garcia (Pueblo).
He "voted against it" after he knew it would pass. He was trying to act like he didnt support it so people dont initiate a recall, but he could have at any time as Senate President stopped the bill if he was worried about it in a number of ways. He could have simply not scheduled it.
Hopefully he pays the price with a recall for being scum.
String em up
...and where is the NRA ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsker