And here I was just bitching about my commute. You guys rock, seriously I mean that.
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And here I was just bitching about my commute. You guys rock, seriously I mean that.
My understanding is that the part of the road that failed was designed and built by CDOT on a contract prior to the contract that leased the road for 50 years. Not sure if a CDOT engineer or consultant engineer designed the structure. CDOT does not have warranties on projects, so the contractor that built the structure is off the hook. CDOT tested, inspected and accepted the work of that contractor.
This is why CDOT will be paying for the repairs and reimbursing the toll company for lost revenue. CDOT leased them a defective structure.
No conspiracies, no corruption, just incompetence somewhere in the design, building or inspection of that structure.
"CDOT" doesn't pay, the taxpayers do. Way to protect the taxpayers, CDOT. Winning!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric P
I know, I know, but I say CDOT so much it just comes out naturally.
Thank you for clarifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric P
You know, CDOT's less than transparent handling of the 36 privatization along with the way this state minimized and disregarded its constituents during the 2012 legislative session were the main factors behind my taking early retirement from "The DOT" in '13.
I just couldn't stomach the way this state was conducting business.
I predict Boulder will be getting rail service in the very near future. Open up your wallets, Jared is hungry.
"No rail transit options exist between Boulder and Denver, though tracks are in place. Similarly, no rail alternative to highway vehicle travel exists between Denver and Colorado Springs. Gov. Jared Polis has said he favors creation of better alternatives to vehicle travel as the state’s population grows."
Wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
This isn't true privatization the more I look into it, it seems closer to Corporatism, where a select group gets the profit and the taxpayer gets the risk/losses. I doubt very much the general public understands these deals other than they are being charged to be able to use roadways that they've paid to build (for generations now).
Oh sure, it's just the "express lane," but we all know what that means and how it impacts traffic.
Very different from E-470 but branded the same for the public with ExpressToll.
The only change I would support to TABOR would be to consider "fees" and "tolls" as taxes if they are coming from gov or gov contractors.
It brings me great joy to use the built-in loop hole to enjoy free toll lane usage on 36 especially.
Boulder has been paying increased taxes to fund the B line, which CDOT then cancelled. Boulder continues to pay those, despite not getting the transport they were promised when they voted to accept the tax hike.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
Cdot did not cancel b line, nor does it build rail. RTD does
I doubt boulder will be getting rail anytime soon.
Okay, wrong department, but the point stands. They've been paying extra taxes to fund a service that was then cancelled.
I had to be in Boulder yesterday morning and seemed to make it on time. The most frustrating part was fighting with Google maps the whole time to get a different route, then once I got it, declining the "faster" route it kept trying to give me. There wasn't too much traffic either, as in it didn't seem like one thousand other cars were doing the same thing.
I always wondered if the Google maps system is currently smart enough to disseminate traffic along slightly different routes that are similar in time/distance just to avoid large back-ups.
I can get to Boulder ten different ways without taking 36 and I doubt there?s more than a fifteen minute difference no matter which way I go.
Just for the fun factor they should just cut out that section of 36 and make ramps on either side and make it a Dukes of Hazard type jump. Just make sure to post a minimum speed limit so people will have enough momentum to clear the gap. It would also be a cool way to rid the world of a lot of inattentive drivers who disregard the minimum speed.
What do you have against Unimogs?
They could leave the road as is and just use the repair money and buy everyone in Boulder a Unimog.
Oh I want a 'mog, that would be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
I like all roads to boulder to collapse and shut that place down. Then they can be enlightened.
Been driving 36 all week, no faster/slower than usual.
That's a raving endorsement for how the toll lanes will improve traffic flow. [Sarcasm2]Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
Build that wall! Build that wall! Build that wall! Build that wall! Build that wall! Build that wall!...
I thought it was closed all the way and have been avoiding. No wonder alternate routes weren't so crowded.
Yep,
They took two WB lanes and diverted EB to them like on Monday or Tuesday.
Hence the discussion about CDOT having to reimburse the off-shore contractor that built the toll road due to the loss in tolls.
So, what's the deal with the 10 semi loads of 3x3x6 foam blocks that they have delivered on site? Is the plan to dig out the entire section of road leading up to the bridge and use these blocks as the road base?
Bicycle lane? ;)
-John
Fema camp.
OThat?s some the filler for the ?aircrete? to be used in the reconstruction.....Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
Actually I have no idea.....
On thinking about the wall collapse, I wonder if the same contractor conglomerate that constructed the SH 287 (Federal Blvd.) wall that collapsed between 68th Ave. & 70th Ave at the RR over pass a few years ago also built the US 36 wall that collapsed ?
Found some info on it.. this is what they have stacked up there on site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geofoam
"Geofoam is expanded polystyrene (EPS) or extruded polystyrene (XPS) manufactured into large lightweight blocks. The blocks vary in size but are often 2 m ? 0.75 m ? 0.75 m (6.6 ft ? 2.5 ft ? 2.5 ft). The primary function of geofoam is to provide a lightweight void fill below a highway, bridge approach, embankment or parking lot. EPS Geofoam minimizes settlement on underground utilities. Geofoam is also used in much broader applications, including lightweight fill, green roof fill, compressible inclusions, thermal insulation, and (when appropriately formed) drainage.[1][self-published source]"
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ix%C3%B6_5.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...minology-2.jpg
I have so many questions...
I thought styrofoam was the work of the devil and killing the earth? Will the road squeak like a foam cooler every time someone drives over it? [Sarcasm2]
PDF: Lessons Learned from Failures InvolvingGeofoam in Roads and Embankments
Yeah right? Now my fellow Boulderites can travel in horror when they drive their EVs to Denver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Except when you impede a tree huggers commute home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman