Watch the torque test channel about that Ryobi 1/2" impact before you buy.
https://youtu.be/NpxHkkzxeUE
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Watch the torque test channel about that Ryobi 1/2" impact before you buy.
https://youtu.be/NpxHkkzxeUE
To be quite honest, I want it to remove and replace the lugnuts on the truck and trailers. I do not expect it to do all as claimed, I'm not necessarily disassembling farm equipmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Now we're getting into another discussion, but might as well have it here. A few years ago I bought the cheapo Husky air ratchet set. I hooked it up to my air compressor and it couldn't even undo the lug nuts tightened to 105 ft/lbs. Now it just sits in my tool box. I think part of that is having a tiny, cheap, Harbor Freight (or Home Depot) air hose. One time my neighbor brought over his Aircat and larger hose, and then my Husky air impact worked better. I still forget that I even have those airtools though.
tl;dr, I also just want an electric impact that can at least bust loose lug nuts.
I have the same set, and want the bigger electric for the same reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I do believe my air lines/fittings are cheapos and undersized, which makes a difference, but expected better.
We only use the air impact after breaking stuff loose with the breaker
I ran a mix of Dewalt, Rigid, and Makita for a long time before I replaced them all with Milwaukee. Nothing particularly wrong with any one, and some had particular strengths. The Ridgid drill I had was an oddity in that it had a 1/2" chuck with a metal gearbox, a thing I quite liked and still miss. Their battery deal is a 'lifetime service agreement', not a warranty, and requires registration of each battery shortly after purchase. And you have to go through the time and expense of shipping the dead pack off to them for replacement. Whatever you pick, there is a lot to be said for sticking with one brand with consistent batteries, even where a particular tool may be more or less optimal than something in a different line. And that is what I love about the Milwaukee system. It is not tied to a particular store; I can get the batteries at Home Depot, Bomgaars, Ace Hardware, etc... They are reasonably priced, there are plenty of capacity choices, and the prices scale for amp hours. All a plus in my book.
I have the 18v brushless impact, probably similar to the one in the video that Ryobi allegedly trounced. I have yet to encounter a nut it can't bust loose. Or at least snap off.
The Ryobi doesn't beat the Milwaukee IIRC.
So far, I think Dewalt and Milwaukee have the most votes. That works for me.
I'm pretty sure you have heard of AVE on YouTube. He may not dissect everything, but I would bet you could search any brand plus AVE on the tube and see a bit of build quality
Yeah I got turned on to him a while ago and have been watching regularly. The only one I've seen of a tool I actually have is my worm drive skill saw; then I liked it less.
It's dangerous to have a third party point stuff out to you. My neighbor commented that the fan on my welder was loud. I didn't think his was much quieter, but now running mine has been bothering me. That's the worst, especially since I love my welder.
I?ve always ran Milwaukee. I?ve only had one issue with my impact driver that they covered under warranty. After using it, it would make a high pitch whine for 10-15 seconds. It never drained the battery or caused performance issues, just made a weird noise. I recently picked up a Milwaukee cordless impact and can say that were not joking when they said 1400lb/ft of ?nut busting? torque. Project farm provides some real world, un-biased information and IIRC, Milwaukee has always taken the cake. Either way, I don?t think you can wrong with DeWalt or Milwaukee.
https://youtu.be/4jxZAKk_nSk
Does your welder work? That's all that really matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Such is the life of cheapasses, and people that would rather spend money on other shit.
I am included in both categories
Like a JD Squared 32 tube bender.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00tec
Kinda like when I got a quote of $450ish for a cerakote job and spent well over $1k in tools... other shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Milwalkee all the way. Great warranty and service.
Too bad that head to head video used the 1/4" Milwalkee...sort of looking for a 3/8 size review....
Craftsman is owned by Stanley Black and Decker.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeRoss
I'm happy with my recently purchased DeWalt compact drill (20V MAX) and screwdriver and my Milwaukee Sawzall. The DeWalt 8V MAX gyro screwdriver is awesome. I use it working on computers and driving screws into walls.
Same here. Went all Ridgid until I got jerked around on a battery replacement. Now its Milwaukee all the way. On the other hand, I have a friend that does all the tool rental and repair at a Home Depot and he said that if you know how to work the system you can end up with extra batteries. I took a pass on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
What was Rigid doing that they weren't honoring the warranty?
They have a proprietary chip in their batteries, its crap and burns out. Cant get replacements, wont warantee it even with proof of purchase and ownership unless you know the hoops to jump thru.
With the learning curve it's easier to buy better tools
A local motor shop was doing the warranty work for Ridgid in Ft Collins and there was no problem until they quit because they weren't getting paid. A shop in Greeley took over and it took six to eight weeks to get a new battery. That was two trips to Greeley and two months to get a replacement battery. Time to move on.
This conversation came up a number of years ago and I remember people were going on and on about how much better the Rigid warranty was. I warned that it wouldn't last and once the gravy train ended a lot of people were going to be left out in the cold.
I also stated that, based on the research and reviews I had seen, it was an inferior product and you would most definitely need to utilize that warranty regularly.
At the time I was getting pushed back from people whose stance was that if DeWalt was so good they would offer a similar warranty. My DeWalt gear keeps chugging along decades later like the day it was new even far outside of any warranty period. I feel bad for those that believed the marketing hype they were sold.
It sucks that some of you had to deal with the Rigid headache. That doesn't sound like a very positive ownership experience.
I like DeWalt. I've used some of my DeWalt stuff for a few pretty heavy projects (building a very large deck, for instance) but mostly it's homeowner type stuff. So, they aren't abused. I'm going on 10 years with most of my DeWalt stuff and not a single problem whatsoever.
I am starting to upgrade/add a few tools here and there, though, and find the Milwaukee stuff pretty enticing.
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Originally Posted by leightoncash
Well that makes me wanna shit-can my Bosch router... I really liked it till I read that.
Hitachi = rossi
Used to be good until some shithole company bought them
I've used mine for quite a while to include a brief stint at a professional capacity (electrician) and I don't anticipate needing to replace any of them other than the occasional battery maybe. I saw lots of Milwaukee on the job sites as well so I certainly wouldn't throw any of those in the trash to get DeWalt if I already own them. For me, the key is buying the right ecosystem on the front end and then sticking with it since the batteries are the expensive part. You want to buy as few batteries as possible to run all your tools so whether that's Milwaukee or DeWalt you really can't go wrong. I just know that based on personal experience and what I saw in the field, DeWalt was deployed far more frequently than everything else combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
^^ Don't disagree with that at all. I've just had the opportunity to pick up a few Milwaukee things thru that Home Depot program I'm in and they're all top notch. I find that when I have a choice between similar tools I'm reaching for the red one over the yellow one more often than not. It's not that the DeWalt stuff is bad...I'm just finding the Milwaukee stuff is that good.
This video came into my feed a few weeks ago, and this thread reminded me to watch it. Looks like you can get a battery adapter (for $20ish) for most tool options (unless you have Ryobi tools). Might ease the pain of switching over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMssklzoBAk&ab_channel=sixtyfiveford
And there is nothing wrong with getting into another brand or battery type if you need to. Yes it?s more expensive and doesn?t allow you to stockpile a single battery. But if you have a need to get a different brand, I wouldn?t let the fact you have to buy a new battery ruin it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
There are deals all the time on different things, so just acquire over time unless you really need it now.
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Another great YouTube channel, not necessarily tool related but sometimes, is Essential Craftsman. The guy is a wealth of information and just fun to watch.
The caveat to be concerned is thermal management. I haven't watched that particular video but make sure you understand how the thermal management & safety aspects work. Lots of adapters bypass these or use unregulated batteries. Best case scenario in these situations the battery will run do low that it bricks & is unrecoverable. Worst case can result in fires & such. It can be done as evidenced by an adapter I made to adapt my 20v DeWalt batteries to an older 18v B&D weed eater I got tired of rebuilding the old Ni-Cad packs on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I think me and my Walthers are offended. When you talk about Walther, there's 2 different sides. There's Ulm, making the good stuff (like the P99 and PPQ) . Then there's Umarex/Arnsberg where they make the not so good stuff (like the P22 and P380). I would equate Ulm in the DeWalt/Milwaukee camp and Arnsberg in the Ryobi camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by leightoncash
Amen !!! Great guy and a wealth of personal experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
I?ve had my DeWalt set since the late 1990?s. Yes, the 18V NiCad XRP multi-tool set with the huge blow molded plastic case.
Hard construction use on the hammer/drill. and saws all, occasional use on the circular saw. I have been through 3 sets of batteries, and have recently gotten a set of third party Li-Ion batteries (2) to fit the old style tools and an adaptor (DeWalt) to use the modern DeWalt factory Li-Ion batteries and 2 - 4 amp batteries.
So, I now have 4 batteries and will using this DeWalt set well into the 2020?s and maybe beyond.
So far I have noticed that both sets of batteries do not suffer from self discharging when setting unused for a few weeks, since I am not in the heavy construction aspect of my industry anymore.Yet, the in use life of the Li-Ion batteries is well beyond what the NiCads would do.
I?m sticking with my HiPoints for now. The 20 year old saw all still works and the drill and impact driver got replaced with the brushless versions because the battery tool set was cheaper that just the batteries.
I will have feedback on their impact wrench after I switch to summer tires.
I think for a homeowner who does infrequent projects they are more then fine. Also they offer tools that seem stupid until you use them. Two of my favorites are the tire inflator with the digital gauge and the electric weed sprayer.
Had I to do it over again I would go dewalt if I did a lot of construction. And Milwaukee if I did a ton of wrenching since they have the 12 and 18 electric wrenches.
Actually, the new Makita cordless worm drive saw is the best of the best. And, while not cordless, their 15A Sawzall is a beast, easily better than the Milwaukee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
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Makita does make great tools. They just aren?t as common as dewalt or Milwaukee.Quote:
Originally Posted by leightoncash
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Kinda like Walthers!Quote:
Originally Posted by whitewalrus
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