On the other hand, one of those fake handshake/hair grooming tricks would have been a classic for Trump to pull!
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On the other hand, one of those fake handshake/hair grooming tricks would have been a classic for Trump to pull!
The debate was not open to a public audience. The whole process is a sham and the house of cards will collapse soon. Or Kamala Harris will win, which is basically the same thing. I don't trust either candidate.
I think if two opponents shook hands and then spoke respectfully about how they would improve the country instead of running a two hour pathological attack against their opponent,
People would probably think both we're mentally ill because we've never seen that before.
In the words of a Texan "It ain't right!"
Truthfully American presidential politics are entirely about who Americans don't want.
It's almost never about who they do.
Foxtrot.
You are right. I don’t want a democrat.
I want someone like Rand Paul.
But that isn’t a choice I have.
Also game theory comes into play. Unless I believed someone like Rand Paul could win, I will cast my votes in two ways
1) prevent what I don’t want
2) best chance of beating what I don’t want
I am not a Trump fan. But I dispise almost all democrats (who are now socialists and communists).
Reasonable democrats are mostly gone
It’s sad the best chance of GOP winning is Trump…
Biden seemed sickly if you ask me. It was as if he just got over COVID or something. There is something going on they are not telling us!
Except they took him to a (completely staged) meet and greet at Waffle House right after. If he was sick, WTF are they doing exposing him to all those people?Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
This is pretty much where I stand, I am the party of freedom, and keeping the most money in my pocket aka lower taxes. I don?t care what letter or color you have beside your name.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDT951
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I think they should be allowed to cuss at the debate.
I think they should settle it Code Duello.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint45
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...%20with%20them.
July 11, 1804. "The final straw for Aaron Burr was the publication of a letter in a newspaper that said Alexander Hamilton demeaned Burr's character. Burr demanded Hamilton apologize for the insults or explain them. Hamilton stayed quiet, so Burr demanded a duel."
Arguing about golf handicaps is for fags. Act like men and meet in a field in New Jersey, ten paces apart.
The scary fact is that 30% of the population still thinks Biden is the best choice.
But what should be an eye opener for those sleeping is the fact that the media is pretending that they had no idea Biden was this bad. They seem surprised, which I have a hard time believing is genuine. There is no way that many people in the media are so utterly stupid/blind that they didn't notice until now. They have been actively "debunking" any story that he is a potato. So what changed during the debate? Why are they admitting it now? It should be clear to everyone now that the media is completely full of shit and can't be trusted.
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Seems like a game they've been playing since Day One: keep Joe hidden from the public eye, have him leave very brief press conferences without taking any questions, and keep making excuses for him. They could've avoided the debate altogether if they wanted to, and this was a deliberate premeditated choice to put him out there unprepared and unmedicated knowing the world would be shocked by how inarticulate and lost the alleged "leader" of America is.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
They intend to replace him with someone other than Kamala Harris, who is even less popular than he is and cannot win even on a "Not Trump" platform.
It will not be Newsome... it'll probably be Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia who is just as bad, and in some ways worse.
Trump may be an egotistical, self-centered, foul-mouth & shrewd businessman, but he is OUR egotistical, self-centered, foul-mouth & shrewd businessman.
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Originally Posted by Clint45
If they do that. The D's mantra of inclusivity for all will be flushed down the shitter.
To ignore the first female V.P who is also a person of color, ignoring her ancestors owned slaves. Would not go over well with the already triggered voter base they've been courting forever. Bypass the current V.P and go with a white guy or gal. Yeah that will paly well with their alphabet gender crowd
How would they deal with the democracy thing by arbitrarily placing another candidate on the ballot? Voters in thier primaries voted for Joe, not Kamala or anyone else. What's the point of voting in primaries if they can just appoint any candidate they wish?
This sounds like so much more of an "attack on our democracy" than anything they have accused Trump of. I imagine this bypassing of democracy wouldn't sit well with many independents, or would face many legal challenges to the legitimately of any candidate other than Joe.
Only way to legitimately replace an elected candidate would for that candidate to die.
That may be the democratic party's "Plan B".Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric P
There are FEC issues if they replace Biden as the nominee by anyone other than Harris. $240M in campaign money goes to the DNC and they have limited options to disburse that legally.
Biden won't resign prior to his term ending because Speaker Johnson will become VP. The democrat party is in a bit of a pickle right now. But not to worry. I have confidence the R party has a plan up their sleeve to collectively fuck up any advantage these democrat party problems are causing the dems. They're masters at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Whatever the Ds decide to do, they need to do it by Aug 7. That's the deadline for getting a candidate on the ballot in Ohio.
Under normal circumstances I would agree but there is a huge orange issue you are overlooking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Many, if not most, on the left would gladly pause their handwringing over identity politics to keep "the ultimate threat to our democracy" out of office.
Never underestimate their hatred and fear of Trump. And their desire for the power. Remember "...fundamentally transforming the United States of America"? That has not waned in the least.
The past eight years of constant negative reports on most news outlets has convinced many non-political types that the country may truly be in peril if he is re-elected.
How can that be when the convention is the 19th-22nd?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Is there an actual nominating process that happens before then?
Edit- yes, there is. The Convention is nonsense.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ath-rcna160092
"Biden's nomination is expected to occur before that, in a virtual roll call of state delegations in late July or early August. The convention's rules committee is expected to set a date at a meeting July 19."
Maybe the US should take a page from the UK's election process.
The official campaign period in the UK is 25 working days, or roughly five weeks.
The last US presidential campaign lasted nearly 600 days, and this go around looks to break that record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJr44m-w1Y
Good for some chuckles.
Some here won't like it... Oh well...
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Originally Posted by Grant H.
It was worth the 15 minutes, thanks.
I like John Stewart as a comedian, and that was good, but he's infected with quite a bit of TDS.