Let me know - I'll pitch in for what you think I might need.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrymrc
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Let me know - I'll pitch in for what you think I might need.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrymrc
Just spent 2 weeks out in Oregon. They have a store called Winco that sells bulk items. So I stocked up again on dehydrated items and gravy's that one would have to buy from Walton feed.
Most of this is going into long term Mylar. Some is for some other members.
funkfool, Mylar is here. ;)
The Safeway at 84th and Federal just rearranged their shelves and took some old product and marked it down. They have a bunch of 5lb bags of self rising floor and 2lb bags of Natural Cane Sugar for only .67 cents each.
I didn't know Safeway sold self rising floor. Is that like a magic carpet but even better since it's the entire floor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
That's why they had to rearrange the shelves to begin with. Jeeez [ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Snyper
Oops.
It is Gold Medal Self-rising Floor.
Very handy in the event of a sink hole.
Good book! I also recommend "Patriots" by James Westly Rawles, great survival book, and intimately appropriate to our current economic situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkfool
Thanks for your help Jerry...
Glad to get to know you a little better...
Little pic of the party... and feet.
King Soopers has Green Beans on sale for 88 cents. I know it is not the 50 cents of two years ago but it is still cheaper than buying at 70 cents a can.
For me I can Pts and get the net of 1-1/2 can of green beans per Pt. I also have control over what goes into the jar. Here are the current crop. Good looking fresh beans.
I will not bore you with the progress so here are a few pictures from years past. I hope to put up 40 Pts or so.
Mtn.man hit the nail on the head. You all ever think about humping that stuff around? Either you stay put and deal with what comes or you head to high ground where you can hunt, protect your brood, and maybe even thrive. Me, all I care about it enough to last the family for a few days. That having been said, I have thought about setting up a cache consisting of a 55 gal plastic drum full of ammo, water, and some basic high calorie food. Other than that light and mobile is the key... Anyone else see things this way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
Sure, if you've got some where to go. Otherwise, you'll be just like the other 55 million people who say "I'm going to go up to the mountains and kill deer!"
Exactly, that times about 1000.
Mt.man made a good point. You've got to figure out what your plans are and stock food appropriately. If you're going to be traveling on foot, it makes sense that you would want to carry light food. Caching food along your route would probably be a good idea as well. For bugging in, weight isn't as big a factor.
I'm leaning towards making a purchase of either Wise Foods or Legacy Foods. both are freeze dried and have a 25 year shelf life. Just wondering if anybody has had any experience with either of these companies.
Are there any foods that can be purchased in a grocery store that have a long shelf life?
their portions are wrong because they have such high salt content.
there's plenty of stuff at the grocery that'll last 5 years as is. plenty more if you're willing to put in some work.
Which one or do both of them have a high salt content
pretty much every long term pre packaged food is high in salt, it's a preservative.
Wise does, mountain house etc.
I'll pick on Wise since the link is handy
http://www.emergencyfoodwarehouse.co...nutrition.html
the lowest salt content is 33% of the daily value for a one cup serving. Most everyone who's gotten a sample said the entire entree (4 servings) was barely enough for one person. Meaning in one meal you're getting 133% dv of salt. Over salt can have serious consequences for your body.
The salt is bad but what's worse is the servings. Naturally they purposefully try to confused people by having servings sizes that looks like a month or two months or three months of food, but if you look at the calories in said servings they are crazy low. They taste ok though. Personally I'd buy a bunch of on sale canned goods. Cheaper, more variety and much, much easier to make. Only downer is you gotta have the space for it.
Agreed, lost a huge post where I broke this all down.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmckay2
If you want something with weight and space savings get life boat rations.
If you want long shelf life food, give this a look - http://www.shelfreliance.com/
I tried some of it at the Self Reliance Expo and the taste was awesome. The best/worst part is you're buying ingredients, not ready to eat meals. You can mix things up more, but you're losing the convenince of Mountain House.
Great idea Wulf202...I've got some lifeboat rations on order.
I like large bags of rice! Goes good with rabbit, grouse, fish etc. Stores fairly easily and is a great provider of carbohydrates. Large bags of oats is good too! Oats is a quick easy breakfast.
Does anyone know if it's practical to set up a home freeze drying operation, or is it even possible?
yes to both. ill post some links later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Dog
basically you need a vacuum pump. and a chest freezer
Bump, very interested in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlywGYcY-tA
I've messed around with this a bit. He does an excellent job of explaining this in layman terms with basic equipment.
You can find higher quality vacuum pumps on craigslist along with pressure gauges. If you want help making the copper bits let me know.
Thanks for posting this, I didn't even realize it could be done as a practical matter. I'm trying to think of how to scale this to home use. Also, when and how much heat to apply seems to be as much art as science.
From other projects i've read about the dry ice/alcohol/water cooler isn't necessary for most foods, you can simply put it in a very cold chest freezer with the space reduced and the thermostat tripped out.
Also it would be easier to double up the copper tubing and be able to valve one out and turn the other on for thawing also preventing loss of vacuum.
As far as applying heat; there is formula to it. Check out the charts here
https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/DIY_Freeze_Dryer
http://science.howstuffworks.com/inn...ze-drying2.htm
Before I get too much farther into it i need a new meter for my thermo couples actually 2 meters and I'd like to find a way to get a hygrometer into the food.
Bringing this back up and doing a little cleaning as well. BTW speaking of food and preps Wally world has the big cans of chicken on sale for $1.88 each and the expiration date is 2015 so that means that in a basement they are good for at least 4-5 years. [Beer]
I havent read through but I didnt see the LDS Cannery in Aurora mentioned.
Address: 3263 Fraser St, Aurora, CO 80011 » Map
(303) 371-1000
Price List:
http://www.providentliving.org/pfw/m...ov2011_pdf.pdf
You dont have to be a member of the church to shop there but do give them a call and see how they run it as I have never been to the one here and some of them have people on hand to can it as you purchase and some just have it canned up and ready to go. It sounds a little odd but part of the LDS doctrine is preparedness and they recommend that each family be prepped for a year.
It got deleted in the crash. [Bang]Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeon2
Glad I could help out by bringing it back
How many ounces is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrymrc
12.5 Oz. Not a bad price for it already canned. Use by date was 02/15/2015Quote:
Originally Posted by tmckay2
Works out to $2.40 per lb for boneless chicken breast. I save a little when I can at $1.49-$1.69 per Lb but this is a great deal for those that do not can.
I bought one case of 12 and going to get another. The last I bought at Sam's club was $2.10 per can.(same size)
Does anyone have a good recipe for strawberry jam using less sugar? I made a batch last year using the ball recipe that turned out great, but using more sugar than strawberries just seems wrong. I am looking for a recipe for canning, not freezer jam.
So I was in wally world today and saw that they still have chicken @ $1.98 but with a new twist. http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_1151.jpg
The "best by date" was 06/15 so it is good for 4 years in prime shape and more to still be useable. I hope to try these and see how they fit in.
How well does dried pasta hold up over time? Right now they have 16 oz packages for 49 cents if you buy 10 or more.
Also Spaghetti o's with meatballs $1 per 14.75 oz can, although I already cleaned out the store down by ft carson.
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Originally Posted by jerrymrc
Check the label. I am very wary of any from, packaged, made, in china Food item.