Trade items

Just so everybody who did'nt know,knows now. "I are no longer a newbie"[Tooth]

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Originally Posted by Beprepared

Please don't forget your Christian roots. There will be alot of people to be wary of. But alot more that will need charity and a hand up.

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This has always been a matter of internal debate for me. Given that resources will be scarce, and any items of preparedness I have will need to be stretched to help my family survive, I am torn over providing to those who didn't have the foresight enough to prepare for themselves.

Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian and typically I believe in helping others where I can. In SHTF scenarios where I would need to rely on my preparations, even providing EFFORT to others would probably take something away from my loved ones.

This is a tough call, but I think I'd be inclined to point them in a better direction and send them on their way.

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Originally Posted by cbs

Ginsue I just finished off the last of my carrots. for the size of my garden verses family I have not stored long term yet. Last year we ate and gave away goods for almot seven months. Iv'e read you can store them in moist sand all winter.

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Thanks for the info. Do you have any techniques that you've picked up through experience that have helped you to do so well growing items at your altitude?

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Originally Posted by cbs

Just so everybody who did'nt know,knows now. "I are no longer a newbie"[Tooth]

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Hey; congrats! This is a good sign that you are truly participating in this site. Glad to have your inputs.

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Originally Posted by Beprepared

Hey All, great conversation
Good book to start is James Wesley, Rawles [U]How to survive the end of the world as we know it[U] and his site survivalblog.com.

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I have that and a few other of his. My patriots copy was signed by him. BTW has anybody noticed that this has become a popular forum?

some day I will be a zin master too!! as for the garden, I had to plant it with southern exposure,no shade. I use clay buster and peet moss to keep the soil rich. close to a stream in a valley the soil will be naturally rich. Covering the garden in early spring and late fall gets me another month of growing. The season is short but it can be done.

More good info cbs! Thank you.

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Originally Posted by jerrymrc

BTW has anybody noticed that this has become a popular forum?

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THat's because you run a good show Jerry - on matters that are important to folks like us.

I look at it like this, When it's time for war I will show them the gates of hell,but when It,s time for hope I will show them the gates to heavan and I believe they will both be entertwyind. "sp"

What do you guys think about this? After the shtf people ban up in groups. There will be old,mid,young men women and childern. The women will cook,[Tooth]repair gear and care for the childern. The old and middle men will keep order, scout and protect the clan. The young men will scout find trade items and food. Much like the Indians ran the tribe. each indavigual could bring skills and knowlege to a group. OR NOT!!! [ROFL1]

I had a friends who grew a garden up around 8,000ft. They planted in pots and flower beds up against thier south facing wall. They said the heat from the wall gave them an extra month or so of growing season.

our family is so big we will have our own group/tribe/gang.....

Light sticks will be popular if the SHTF. Some even last eight hours. There are even IR light sticks you need night vision gear to see them though.

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

Light sticks will be popular if the SHTF. Some even last eight hours. There are even IR light sticks you need night vision gear to see them though.

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Keep in mind these also have a shelf life...something I recently leaned after storing many for a decade+.[Dunno]

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Originally Posted by Limited GM

Keep in mind these also have a shelf life...something I recently leaned after storing many for a decade+.[Dunno]

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Yeah, but if you don't mind seeing in colored hues you can purchase tubes of the wrist sized ones for under a buck at target. I use these as reward night lights for my young ones. I keep them stocked and rotated. When it thaws I plan on introducing the boys to the joys of wilderness survival where these will help them. A very cheap form of emergency light that can be packed and used for numerous things.

Another point that could be brought up in this trade section that would be good food for thought... (excuse me if this has been brought up but I am new and have not read EVERY thread (yet)), anyone ever thought that some of us locals could participate in group buys together? You can find some real good deals when purchased in extreme bulk but few of us actually have the money to purchase a full year supply of things.

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

I am very concerened with the med situation. I can't get more than a 90 supply of my blood pressure meds. If I don't take one every day, the next day my BP shoots through the roof and I get horrible headaches. This has put me in the ER a couple of times - as the attending said "Minutes away from a stroke".

I've considered the major SHTF situation and needing to visit a pharmacy to obtain a greater supply. I need them for basic survival.

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Just saying here but I took a flight once and they lost my luggage and I went to the doc and told them that my brand new fill was in that bag cause I got it filled on the way to the airport.... just saying.

I also need some meds,maybe on our way out of town we should hold up a wallgrean!!!!![ROFL2]