You definitely have spent some time on the LAPG website!!!
I buy a lot of stuff from them, they have good prices, long waits on shipping but pretty good prices.
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http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewt...hp?f=14&t=4103
For those who aren't aware of Zombie Squad, they have some great preparedness forums, including my personal favorite where members post pics & descriptions of their bug-out bags. Clearly some of these guys put some serious thought & practical field experience into the contents.
So I'm trying to put together a small kit that fits inside an Altoids can, which will fit very nicely in my little grab bag. I've found these two sites that have great small stuff to put into a tin like this. They are actually the same people. The second site is their "new" site. I was checking out on the first site, and saw a message that I could get 10% off on the new site with a provided code. I went to the new site, got my 10% off, but the shipping was $2 more, so I ended up paying $.50 more. Either way, both site have some good stuff I thought.
http://www.bestglide.com/
http://www.adventuresurvivalequipment.com/
For the record, I got:
2 of these P-51 can openers - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...an-opener.html
1 of these credit card tools - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...ival-tool.html
2 of these folding razors (orange) - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...erma-safe.html
2 of these whistles - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...s-whistle.html
Good stuff, however I am not sure I would keep it the size of an altoids can, that is pretty small. You can still keep it small but I just think limiting yourself that much isn't that necessary. But all the more power to you if you get it done. I would definitely want some sort of fire starter, water purification, para-cord, and possibly some fishing items, just to name a few. Just my thoughts and if you already have them, disregard.
These small packs like I have on my knife sheath come with an Altoids tin and are great for small items:
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I keep similar items that you have in there Stuart. I picked up a few Otter boxes last year from REI and they are great for FAK's and other gear:waterproof and different sizes JMHO
The whole deal isn't limited to an Altoid can, just the stuff I can fit into it. It is a great way to get a lot of stuff into a small spot. The bag that the Altoid tin is going into, could actually carry about 7 of them if I packed them into there.
I like that little setup there Stag. Do you wear it on your belt?
Here are some other small things that are on my list of "to get." I was trying to stay around $20 last night. I spent just under $24 last night.
This box looks to be about 4x the size of an Altoid tin and would fit great in my bag - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...l-kit-box.html
If I was made of money I'd buy a bunch of these and put them on various bags and jacket zippers - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...pper-lite.html
Couple of these silica gel packets - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...g-packets.html
Had I seen this magnifying glass last night I might have picked up 2. Seems flimsy though - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...fier-lens.html
These saws are for sure on my list - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...-wire-saw.html
I really like these tweezers too - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...-tweezers.html
This knife sharpener could come in handy - http://www.adventuresurvivalequipmen...g-systems.html
A first aid kit is a must, but I don't know anything about that stuff.
I have that magnifying card-use it for fire starting but takes some practice. Check out countycomm.com also for some unique gear. [Beer]
FAK just stock with basics you may need-your absolutely correct in not carrying stuff you don't know how to use.
I've checked out that site many many times. :)
I think I got it from you originally. I know it was someone from here. County Comm is a bit difficult to navigate though.
So I was going to use two Altoid tins and dedicate one of them to a fishing/sewing tin. Any ideas on how to hold the fishing stuff? Right now I just have some hooks and weights tossed into the tin. Is there like a tiny plastic box to keep them together or something?
Seems like this would work: http://goinggear.com/index.php?main_...roducts_id=252
But it also seems like it'd be too much weight for little result.
I have a couple of those pill holders for keeping a few meds safe and dry. I had picked up an altoid kit from Best Glide and the hooks are still in the small zip lock
bags they came in. As long as your aware of hooks being in there I think your fine without any special holder. JMHO
For the fish hooks - try taping them to the back of the Altoids tin. Regular Scotch tape should do the trick, just leave the shank of hook out where you can get a fingernail under it to remove it from the tape. That should keep them from rattling around and poking you when open the kit.
If you know someone who is a diabetic the bottles that hold test strips are pretty handy. The lids are nice and tight and they have an oxegen absorber inside. Great for a fishing kit or other small items.
I actually made up a bunch of small fishing kits recently.
Each kit has 2 lidded poly containers. 1 2 ounce and 1 1/4 ounce to hold the small items.
50 feet of 20lb Power Pro braided line wound onto a metal sewing bobbin with snap swivel attached.
1 9" 30 lb wire leader.
4 size 14 snap swivels.
10 BB size removable split shot. (only 6 shown in picture)
2 Eagle Claw #8 snells.
1 Matzuo 3/0 sickle treble hook, use for snagging or retrieving items.
2 Matzuo size 1 red chrome worm hooks.
3 Matzuo size 12 baitholder hooks.
2 Sanhu size 8 baitholder hooks.
3 Matzuo size 6 plain shank hooks.
Berkley Gulp maggots for bait.
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The small container sits in the bottom of the larger one. The bigger hooks and line go on top. Plenty of room to add your own gear. This kit was built around the idea of passive fishing. Setting up trot lines and bank lines. Lures can be added to suit your environment if desired. I really can't see the point of kits that include spoons when you have no reel to use them effectively.
I'm about to start working on a BOB today, and heading to the store this afternoon to start getting goodies for it. I'm kinda excited!
Great post Eldora. I actually found that I had a ton of fuse boxes in an old tool box. They are perfect for holding hooks, swivels, weights, etc, so they aren't rattling around. One is a normal plastic box with a snap on lid. The other is a metal/plastic type where the lid slips on and off. They are the perfect size to fit inside an Altoid tin. I did end up switch to a cigar tin that I had laying around though. It is about 2.5x bigger than the Altoid tin and works just great. Also, I got all that stuff I ordered last week.
Finally got all the bob's setup for the family. One "Nice" Kelty backpack for each member. I still have a few items to add, but they are the more expensive items like good clothing, hats, gloves, medical, water bottles, maps, compass, etc. I built a list of items and slowly spend the money on a few of the items. Eventually it will be complete.
My daughter (10) was very excited to put all the items in her backpack I just picked up. (Sportsmans Warehouse has Kelty backpacks discounted on a end shelf away from the regular backpack isle)
http://www.dcandh.com/gallery2/main....serialNumber=1
Got a good start on mine last night. Picked up a non-framed alice pack, and have the following goodies in it as of now:
- Waterproof/steel-toe hiking boots
- waterproof pants and gloves
- thermals
- tarp
- magnesium fire starter
- compass
- small first aid kit
- glow sticks
- water purification tabs
- lightweight paracord
more to come, but I think that's a good start
ghettodub: I'm very interesting your waterproof clothing, is it light weight stuff? brand? etc.
I'm struggling with the clothing part of this, good stuff is expensive, cheap stuff isn't that good for warmth, dryness, etc. Especially buying for 4 people, two whom are still growing by inches a day it seems.
Check out the thrift stores like ARC-when my son was in Scouts I got almost all of his camp clothes that way. You'd be amazed at what you can find including stuff for yourself at an affordable price. It's kinda funny now that he's 26 and he still loves searching thrift stores. [Beer]
Yep, will start searching the thrift stores. I find pretty good stuff now and then, but haven't started searching for the BOB items there yet.
I got a great shotgun cart at a thrift store recently. (truth: its a jogging stroller and I made it a gun cart for clays).