stupid pot shops, what the sh*t

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Originally Posted by sniper7

I support not taxing as well as legalizing, but since I don't smoke it, can't smoke it, and don't want to smoke it, I would be perfectly fine with taxing the hell out of it, as long as every cent goes to schools, reducing gas tax, or state income tax. something everyone can benefit from.

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I don't smoke it either. I'd like to have a real job again as soon as possible. Not that it ever stopped any of the other professionals I ever worked with.

Taxing it is total BS. If you send all the money to schools, it (the money) probably wouldn't be spent appropriately anyway.

Like others have said already, all these laws are a total joke. The government wants its slice of the pie and they won't have it any other way. Also, if you can grow it yourself, then you wouldn't "need" anyone (overseen by the government of course), to do give it to you. The government seems to be steadfastly against ANY type of individual independence.

Legalize it?

Tax it?

Looks like, it already IS, and they already DO.

From John123's link....$10 MILLION dollars from fees last year.

From the link below....(estimated) 1/2 MILLION dollars in sales taxes last year, and that is JUST Boulder.

And the pot business is growing exponentially.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_16391813

Ya, so it is still not legal "federally" yet. Do you really think the states and cities are going to let this cash cow go?

I wonder how those people in prison, serving a MANDATORY multi-year sentence feel. For doing the same thing MANY are doing now, which is (more or less) "technically" legal, now that the government is getting their cut.

Hey man, I really neeeed my medicine. Solid.

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Originally Posted by Irving

I don't smoke it either. I'd like to have a real job again as soon as possible. Not that it ever stopped any of the other professionals I ever worked with.

Taxing it is total BS. If you send all the money to schools, it (the money) probably wouldn't be spent appropriately anyway.

Like others have said already, all these laws are a total joke. The government wants its slice of the pie and they won't have it any other way. Also, if you can grow it yourself, then you wouldn't "need" anyone (overseen by the government of course), to do give it to you. The government seems to be steadfastly against ANY type of individual independence.

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totally agree. but if it was taxed, how would you suggest it be spent?

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

I never even tried it. Never cared to.

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Same here. Used to swear to that while still in the military and not once did the comment go by where people didn't look at me with an expression that screamed "liar".

Just never has a desire to try it and hated the smell of others using it (it used to get smoked on my Jr. High school bus - driver allowed it since the kids were HIS source for it.)

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Originally Posted by sniper7

totally agree. but if it was taxed, how would you suggest it be spent?

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I wouldn't. I honestly have no input to where taxes that shouldn't exist should go. I'd probably say that they shouldn't be specially selected, and where ever the rest of the corporate taxes go. I think it is a poor idea to select a tax on a certain product, to pay for a specific something or other else. Although, I DID vote on the casino change and am loving the new operating of the local casinos.

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Originally Posted by Irving

ITaxing it is total BS. If you send all the money to schools, it (the money) probably wouldn't be spent appropriately anyway.

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+1 this.

In Missouri, when they were debating the whole "riverboat gambling" and lottery thing, the proponents kept telling us how all of the revenue generated by these things in the state would go to education; and it does - every penny.

What they DIDN'T tell us is that for every $1 in gambling/lottery revenues going to education, there would be $1 less of the other state revenues (taken in as education taxes!) going to education. It started being re-directed to other programs and was eventually permanently redesignated for other programs. The school revenues started to become almost soley from the gambling/lottery proceeds.

Since the people of MO knew the schools were getting gambling/lottery money they continually rejected any revenue increases for schools - in fact, the budgets started getting cut once the gambling fever went down and there wasn't as much revenue being drawn in from those endeavors.

So, those new revenues which were supposed to help the schools ended up hurting them.

I expect the same sort of thing will happen here in CO with the MMJ revenues.

Just sayin.

I think MMJ dispenseries will reach critical mass soon and some will start dieing off. On of my high school buddies was telling me that it is getting harder to get a card they are starting to crack down. It is not nearly as old west as it was a year ago.

It's a fucking joke. "70 Flavors of therapy" or similar is what the big head shop on Platte advertises on a large sign.

If the cameras are rolling the media will wheel out a harmless older patient to point at, but anyone with some brain cells left knows that is just spin. Any discussion of medical efficacy is wasted on the general public by now.

Pot is now just another tool for keeping politicians in power.

Who cares if schools are failing and crime is rampant, it's the first of the month and Barry's "prescription" has been refilled! Stop by the unemployment office to pick up some complimentary rolling papers and test drive the Chevy Volt! Se habla espanol

You know I heard the other day that "drugged driving" busts were up this year compared to last. How many of these were "Medicinal Patients? The state has created quite a conundrum for themselves and the whole MMJ thing. You want to collect taxes but it is still illegal at a Fed level. A MMJ card is not a prescription but a "recommendation" by a Dr. Big legal difference there. If people are getting popped on blood tests and urinaylisis for being "Under the Influence" how are the results quantified? MJ is not like alcohol where you have a "threshold limit" and a given timefra$me for usage. Somebody could partake in MJ usage and still piss hot up to 30 days later-looong after the effects are gone. Does that meet "Under the Influence" criteria?
I say legalize and regulate as is done with alcohol.
Fact-over history one of the largest opponents to legalization of pot has been the liquor industry. Think of the billions the alkys would lose............

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

You know I heard the other day that "drugged driving" busts were up this year compared to last. How many of these were "Medicinal Patients? The state has created quite a conundrum for themselves and the whole MMJ thing. You want to collect taxes but it is still illegal at a Fed level. A MMJ card is not a prescription but a "recommendation" by a Dr. Big legal difference there. If people are getting popped on blood tests and urinalysis for being "Under the Influence" how are the results quantified? MJ is not like alcohol where you have a "threshold limit" and a given timeframe for usage. Somebody could partake in MJ usage and still piss hot up to 30 days later-looong after the effects are gone. Does that meet "Under the Influence" criteria?
I say legalize and regulate as is done with alcohol.
Fact-over history one of the largest opponents to legalization of pot has been the liquor industry. Think of the billions the alkys would lose............

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Thats the whole point, they would have to have a blood test, Fat cells will hold and release the THC over time, but if it is in your bloodstream over a certain level you are under the influence.

I agree though, Legalize, regulate it and tax it at the same ration as cigarettes.

I think we are at 800% now?

Just legalize pot and illegalize ([Abused] lol) cigarettes. Even with a lesser tax rate than cigarettes, the state would still be raking it in.

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Originally Posted by ghettodub

I think we need to legalize weed and tax the hell out of it. Solution to our debt problems...

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+1

Of course with the tax and spend mentality of our government officials we would not reduce our debt with the funds but instead spend it on another bridge that goes nowhere.

Fuel taxes are at ~46 cents/gal or roughly 1/6 cost.
How many Millions of gallons do we buy everyday?


I Stand corrected on the cigarette taxes
the highest rate in the nation?
NY at $5.85/pack in TAX

didn't we leave his Majesty's empire for a reason like this?

Just sayin

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

I Stand corrected on the cigarette taxes
the highest rate in the nation?
NY at $5.85/pack in TAX

didn't we leave his Majesty's empire for a reason like this?

Just sayin

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Yes we did. To even suggest that we "tax the hell" out of anything, is treasonous.

At least in 1933 the government was smart enough to figure out that prohibition does not work.

Legalize it. Tax it. Move on.

As far as driving while impaired, I don't see a difference between alcohol, pain killers or marijuana.

I'll be interested to see how many dispensaries are around in a couple of years, once the newness wears off.

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

I Stand corrected on the cigarette taxes
the highest rate in the nation?
NY at $5.85/pack in TAX

didn't we leave his Majesty's empire for a reason like this?

Just sayin

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I'm kind of surprised how low Colorado's are in comparison, probably not for long though...