Attachment 31425 Striker barrel for a guy with LDS
Printable View
Attachment 31425 Striker barrel for a guy with LDS
Attachment 31427458 on a Rem SA for a hog hunter in TX, He liked shooting those little boolets too.
http://i.imgur.com/fu5ZqdT.jpg
...and the most intelligent thing I can think of to do with a 458 case...neck it to .416 and shoot 450 Hornady's through a can.
Whos Marty?
I got my custom mold from Accurate built to fit my Magma Master Caster. I just need to hunt down some gas checks. Also I can't find any LP mag primers anywhere.
So is 16" the only barrels available? I was looking around hoping to see an 18" somewhere. Maybe Spook can do one that long?
Dave with a stiff load of RL-10x and a 350 gr bullet theres about 20 fps per inch to be gained out to 24"...kind of a diminishing return ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
OK, just wondering why I have only ever seen 16" barrels, and now I know why. (and knowing is half the battle!) I was actually asking because Bushmaster makes (or used to make) a 20" upper for their .450 "thumper" round, and was curious. I ordered a RRA .458 upper, but in my last talk with them they basically told me to stop calling, it's on indefinite backorder and I'll get it when I get it if ever. And, if I cancel my order I still have to pay a 20% restocking fee, even though there is no item to actually put back into their stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKA-Spook
Good intel Dave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
Note to self: Scratch the pencil dicks at RRA off the list of people to do business with.[Bang]
I ordered a Wilson Combat 458 SOCOM " Build Kit" (barrel, adjustable gas block, gas tube, BCG, brake) on 09 Apr 2013.
Here's the latest word:
We currently do not have an estimated time, we are severely back ordered with barrels. I checked to see where you were at on the back order list and you are 54th in line. It will still be several months wait.[Bang]
Thank You for your patience.
Was yours with RRA as well? I ordered a full upper on April 7, 2013 and they haven't told me what spot I am in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
Nope - Wilson Combat (fixed the original post)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
I sent them an email asking for an update.
Hope it's worth the wait.
I just got my email from Wilson saying my .458 ammo was sent out yesterday. So by the end of the week I'll have 100 rounds of ammo and nothing to fire it through. [Bang] Might call to yell at RRA again soon.
Life you will share your ammo, I'll share my 458S......... And I am free to go shooting this weekend......[Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
What bullet weight and style did you order ?
300 gr hornady HP. Working this weekend unfortunately, and my next range trip has to include my PSL.
Dave,
Did you end up finding any brass and bullets to reload ? I've got dies and and a press, just need some imperial sizing wax.
No brass found yet, but I did grab a box of 50 projectiles from Midway. 350 gr TTX I believe. I've looked for bigger, but I don't see myself getting a suppressor anytime soon so heavier rounds in subsonic loads aren't a priority. I think Midway had some 500 gr round nose when I ordered, but those went out of stock about the same time as the rest.
Gunstop Reloading has new brass - not cheap, but available
http://www.gunstop.com/Store/Rifle%2...ass/SLB-SU458S
For those of you here that are saving and or reloading for this caliber, please see my thread in the Ammo, Ballistics and Reloading section (Marked and Gouged Brass) to see if you are experiencing or have had a similar issue.
SSB.
Well, I got my upper in today. Complete surprise since I never got an email from RRA that it was coming. Kind of sucks since I had been planning to go to MI next week but now have reduced funds as I had thought this wouldn't be coming until next year with the way they talked when I called them.
What sights or scopes are you guys running on your big bore AR's?
Troy flip ups front and rear. So far I have only gotten them sighted dead on at 25 yards. And an EOTech EXPS-2 & 3x magnafier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
But then the Great Floods of 9/13 floated my safe down the Platte, I think it finally washed ashore in Nebraska........
I got a in stock notice earlier today from Exile Machine that they had Car-Bon 300 gr. JHP in stock, 100 boxes of 20 rounds. Went to order some, and it was all sold out......
After the almost daily email ads from Wilson Combat, I finally got an email from them about my 458 kit.
They wanted to know if I still wanted it, and needed to update my payment info.
It's been just over a year since I ordered it, and I may actually receive it soon
[Flower]
I'm in "please wait" mode as well.
Gives time to collect components.
edit - holy shit, a tracking notice
Sounds worse than my RRA experience. I still haven't shot mine though, and it's on a DD Armory lower. No sights, and every time I wanted to I end up just going for pistol or taking my 5.56 one. Though now that I ordered a Burris AR-332 to have as a sight I don't have any more excuses and need to get out soon.
I GOT A SHIPPING NOTICE!
Now I just need to convince Jay to modify an upper for me.
My Wilson Combat 458 SOCOM billet upper is arriving today, so I'll have it all built tonight.
Now, I need to load up some rounds.
I have all the components, but before/while I blindly Google load data, where do yall prefer to get your load data for the .458?
http://458socomforums.com
(not that I have bullets yet, was expecting more time between ordering the upper & delivery. Got brass though)
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
All I have are factory loads right now, but I don't have a press either. At $3.50 each round I've been scared to go shoot them.
No kidding!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
I was not able to find any factory loads a year ago when I ordered the build kit, but I did manage to find a couple hundred rounds of brass and bullets.
Even my reloads are going to be around $2.25 apiece.
Still can't wait to shoot it though.
PM headed your way.....[Tooth]Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
Brass from 300 gr. rated at 1950 FPS. A little over pressure ?
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/25/muqu3uty.jpg
Sent from my ass using re-fried beans.
Doesn't look too bad, not sure how it would affect the ability to reload it though. Maybe you should post it or a link to here in the reloading thread to get some extra opinions. The 300 gr rounds I have are rated to 1800 fps instead of 1950.
The others I have are 400 gr, and all of mine are JHP. I have been thinking about the heavier ones as hunting rounds, but last night I got to thinking that most 400 gr+ rounds are slower (1500 FPS range) and I was worried that this might affect accuracy at longer distances since it might drop more past 100 yards than a faster 300 gr round. Anyone have thoughts on it?
Just using a quick online ballistics calculator,
300g, .302bc, 1800fps = -12.5" at 200 yards with a 100 yard zero
400g, .302bc, 1500fps = -18.6" at 200 yards with a 100 yard zero
Personally, I don't anticipate needing more than 300g to take down anything in North America within 200 yards.
I plan to use the >350g bullets for primarily subsonic purposes.
Yeah, that's a hell of an extra drop at 200 yards. Might rethink my choices. Been getting different rounds mostly because I've just bought as I get emails saying something in .458 is available.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
What calculator are you using? Is it online or one you have downloaded?
At least with the .450BM (should be similar) as long as I keep about 1300 fps with the heavies, the accuracy stays pretty much straight MOA. I hope to be tossing 300s and 320s arond 2400 to 2500 or so in a few weeks once I get the .450 BM/C all dialed in.
I just Googled "ballistics calculator" and chose this one:
http://www.federalpremium.com/ballistics_calculator/
I was just guessing on the bc for those two rounds.
It would be an even greater spread if you are using pointed 300g (Barnes Tac-TX) vs. flat nosed 400g.
I loaded up my first 10 rounds last night and plan to set them off this evening.
Hodgdon BL-C(2) is the only powder I have on hand that I could even find loading data for the .458 SOCOM.
I also only have standard large pistol primers - not magnum.
I extrapolated from a few different charts and came up with this as a first go:
48g BL-C(2)
CCI 300
350g Hornady InterLock flat nose
Already did awhile back, it didn't get very many responses. I was just wondering if this was an RRA bolt/upper problem, or just an over pressure problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/116051-...d-Gouged-Brass
Now, that was fun!
Just lobbed 3 rounds down range, got the scope sighted in.
Ran flawless, no signs of over-pressure.
I'll save the rest for tomorrow when my buddy brings up his chronograph.
I like it!
Well, upon further inspection, I may have found an issue with this $300 billet upper.
Here's a copy of what I just sent to Wilson Combat:
I'll wait to see what they say before getting excited.Quote:
I recently purchased your .458 SOCOM Billet upper. I fired 3 rounds today and upon inspection, I noticed a couple of silver specks in the top of the ejection port. I scraped at them with my fingernail, and they got bigger.
Does this billet upper have machining done to the ejection port after anodizing and then simply painted black?
I assumed the .458 billet upper they are selling would have been machined before anodizing - they even have ".458 SOCOM" engraved into the left side of it.
I even have one of Jay's uppers just sitting on a shelf - didn't want to have it machined and then painted over.
[Mad]