I propose Peace

I like this plan as long as Peace means peace through superior firepower.

We'll need to run all the illegals and liberals out of CA, OR and WA. We need CA, OR and WA for the naval bases / shipping ports and so we can send the Navy out to kick Red China's ass in 20 years.

We'll have the Gulf ports to get HKs and other currently restricted firearms from the nations to the east of us.

We'll have to redirect all shipping to the Gulf from the East Coast so we get first pick of stuff and they get the leftovers. I don't want a bunch of idiotic New York and Wash DC liberal scum getting things before we get them.

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What kind of republic would that look like? Mandatory this, mandatory that, how about having a truly free nation? Maybe I am just to Liberterian for this topic.. But most of the things you guys are describing sound more like a facist state.

(besides having everyone own a firearm, that sounds awesome.)

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This is where were gonna run into probs. Libertarians, Constitutionalists, and pragmatic conservatives are going to butt heads. Here's what we do. Pick a state or two along your lines of belief, move there and from the state level down do as you please. We are facing a quasi-fascist/socialist state if we did this so we must move as swift as our founding fathers. Each colony had a policy of mandatory militia service. If you want freedom fight for it.

No, I don't see this thread getting taken out of context by the media, gov't or anti's; why do you ask?

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Maybe I'll give a try being a fiction writer (similar to Rawles) based on this potential future? :-)

Singlestack

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Check out the Emberverse series by S.M. Stirling. Starts with a book titled Dies The Fire. Alternate history (alternate future actually but set in "current times"). Great series of books about an Event that occurs, society collapses, survival issues (great preparedness ideas in there too). Plenty of fighting/battle action but without firearms due to the nature of the "Event". Set in/around Portland, OR.

Absolutely love these books.

The beauty of a the Rocky Mountain Republic is there would be very little federal government, and each state could design a local government that works best for them. If you want more libertarianism, then move to the state with more libertarianism. If you want more traditional Christian conservative, then move to that state, etc. I have wanted something like this my whole life...

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The beauty of a the Rocky Mountain Republic is there would be very little federal government, and each state could design a local government that works best for them. If you want more libertarianism, then move to the state with more libertarianism. If you want more traditional Christian conservative, then move to that state, etc. I have wanted something like this my whole life...

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Isn't this the way our present nation was originally designed? We have forgotten the term "United States" is plural. . .

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Isn't this the way our present nation was originally designed? We have forgotten the term "United States" is plural. . .

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That was the plan until the worst fears of centralized government/banking our Founders tried so hard to prevent came to pass. Daily more authority is usurped from The People and The States to be consolidated and abused in the heart of corruption to the detriment of our Freedoms and the decay of our Nation.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Colorado Gadsden Society already did.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__eh852Ssmq...aingadsden.png

Maybe we could get the western Canadian provinces to join us ... in which case we should just get Alaska to stick with us too. Or we could just take the Baja ... seriously, what is Mexico gonna do?

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Awesome flag, good on the Gadsden Society.[Beer]

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^^^^


looks good to me. When do we start?

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The sooner the better, but I need somebody to pick me up on the way. Truck broke down this morning and wife says she needs her car today.[Rant1]

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Isn't this the way our present nation was originally designed? We have forgotten the term "United States" is plural. . .

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Exactly. [Beer]

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The beauty of a the Rocky Mountain Republic is there would be very little federal government, and each state could design a local government that works best for them. If you want more libertarianism, then move to the state with more libertarianism. If you want more traditional Christian conservative, then move to that state, etc. I have wanted something like this my whole life...

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Sounds good to me.

We just letting this one die? Best thread in years.

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No, I don't see this thread getting taken out of context by the media, gov't or anti's; why do you ask?

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They have their idea of utopia (you know, the one where criminals say "I'd really like to kill some people today, but I couldn't possibly violate that darn gun ban"),
why can't we have ours?

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Isn't this the way our present nation was originally designed? We have forgotten the term "United States" is plural. . .

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Yes it was, we are called These United States, not The United States.

These United States agreed to come together under the rules set forth in the constitution and the bill of rights including a very limited set of roles to be filled by the federal government.

The United States has FAR exceeded it's bounds and in doing so has eliminated freedom of choice in many areas for all citizens.

Each state is bound to the constitution and the bill of rights. Each state can also enact its own legislation not unlike an experiment to see how well the legislation works as long as that legislation does not violate the constitution or the bill of rights. This idea of experiments coincides with both freedom of choice in where we want to live and freedom of movement, if we don't like one states ruleset, we can move to a different state.

The federal government through it's all encompassing power has eliminated much of this freedom of choice, movement and the opportunity for states to experiment with differing legislation.

For example - I don't have an issue with the people residing in Massachusetts wanting to try universal healthcare for themselves. I think it will be an interesting experiment to see how it works in Massachusetts and Massachusetts alone (being a sovereign person I hope their experiment fails miserably). I have a choice and my choice is to not subject myself to government single payor healthcare so I live in Colorado, if I wanted single payor I'd move to Massachusetts.

I have an ENORMOUS problem with the federal government dictating to all the other states what their healthcare policies will be. The feds have eliminated my choice to live in Colorado away from single payor healthcare.

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Yes it was, we are called These United States, not The United States.

These United States agreed to come together under the rules set forth in the constitution and the bill of rights including a very limited set of roles to be filled by the federal government.

The United States has FAR exceeded it's bounds and in doing so has eliminated freedom of choice in many areas for all citizens.

Each state is bound to the constitution and the bill of rights. Each state can also enact its own legislation not unlike an experiment to see how well the legislation works as long as that legislation does not violate the constitution or the bill of rights. This idea of experiments coincides with both freedom of choice in where we want to live and freedom of movement, if we don't like one states ruleset, we can move to a different state.

The federal government through it's all encompassing power has eliminated much of this freedom of choice, movement and the opportunity for states to experiment with differing legislation.

For example - I don't have an issue with the people residing in Massachusetts wanting to try universal healthcare for themselves. I think it will be an interesting experiment to see how it works in Massachusetts and Massachusetts alone (being a sovereign person I hope their experiment fails miserably). I have a choice and my choice is to not subject myself to government single payor healthcare so I live in Colorado, if I wanted single payor I'd move to Massachusetts.

I have an ENORMOUS problem with the federal government dictating to all the other states what their healthcare policies will be. The feds have eliminated my choice to live in Colorado away from single payor healthcare.

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This all does remind me of what a buddy of mine said one of his teachers at West Point was ranting about one day during one of his lectures. He said something to the effect of Washington D.C. is a horrible location for a national capital, and that Denver would be a more suitable capital from a strategic point of view. I agree, and our new United States capital should be based here or CO Springs as the strategic and logistical POV is great. Perhaps once reorganized Cheyenne Mtn could become our new country's military hub as it is more protected than the current (Pentagon).

The only question I have is how would this hypothetical succession work? Would it be by an armed coup? Is it possible to achieve peacefully? How do you deal with all the lefties living in the mountain states that love it here and would refuse to leave? So many questions as to how to get it off the ground, but I would say the sooner the better! [Beer]

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This all does remind me of what a buddy of mine said one of his teachers at West Point was ranting about one day during one of his lectures. He said something to the effect of Washington D.C. is a horrible location for a national capital, and that Denver would be a more suitable capital from a strategic point of view. I agree, and our new United States capital should be based here or CO Springs as the strategic and logistical POV is great. Perhaps once reorganized Cheyenne Mtn could become our new country's military hub as it is more protected than the current (Pentagon).

The only question I have is how would this hypothetical succession work? Would it be by an armed coup? Is it possible to achieve peacefully? How do you deal with all the lefties living in the mountain states that love it here and would refuse to leave? So many questions as to how to get it off the ground, but I would say the sooner the better! [Beer]

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This shouldn't be a pursued goal but a ready plan. I love my country. But if my country didn't have the strength to survive I would join in union with my like minded brothers to fight tyranny and foreign aggression. Long live our liberty and long live these sovereign United States!