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It's 40 S&W who gives a shit.
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Originally Posted by jim
I originally started an AK-74 kit and was planning to chamber it in 5.56, but then a Galil came along and although it is heavier than the average AK, it eats anything that it's fed. I have learned that steel is better in the AK and I am saving my brass 5.56 for the ARs. AKs are much harder on the brass than ARs.
They all have their place. I really try hard not to think about pilfering ammunition off of dead bodies. Bad karma [Help]
Be safe.
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Originally Posted by cstone
I hope I never ever ever ever have to.
The AK shouldnt' be too bad on the brass. Especially if you tune the gas system right. I think the only thing that might hurt the brass is the ejector.
Definitely the ejector. Puts a nice dent in the case. Much more noticeable than anything I've ever seen from an AR.Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
My 106 chews the brass like nothing. If i was fortunate enough to have one of the geAK's locally i could have them look at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
Hey that brycom guy waved at me. [Stooge]
Cell phone post, wouldn't let me correct stupid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Back to OP... inforwars = tinfoily
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Originally Posted by MB888
Tinfoily or tinFOLLY?
However, its a real contract. NOAA has a small group that does fisheries enforcement in the ocean EEZ.
Okay fellas, I can understand wildlife officers needing ammo, even if they ARE getting 6 million rounds per person, but there is no excuse in the world for this: The Social Security Administration just purchased 174k .357 Sig JHP and it is to be distributed to Social Security offices around the country. Just read the first 4 paragraphs and ignore the rest of the hype.
Call it tinfoily all you want, but can anyone come up with a good reason for the SSA to buy ammo? Even a single bullet?
That is weird seeing how the SSA office's here are manned by outside contract security, not SSA employees.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
In other news i'm off to my favorite NOCO reloading supply store, just browsing
My thought exactly. Is the SSA going to have its own security division or something? If they really are preparing for an uprising (as the tinfoily article suggests... lol) I think .357 Sig would not be their first choice. Strange choice of caliber, strange purchaser, lots of unknowns... Kind of makes me wonder which ammo manufacturer is in bed with the gov on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
Most Federal Agencies, including the social security administration, have Federal Officers/Agents to enforce the laws they regulate. Think about it, even the post office has its own police force.
Yea, no need to worry people..... I am sure buys like these are common! Don't take the signs as any indication that something "might" be brewing. Don't even worry about it for one sec. With all those rounds you will be well protected when you go get your rations..........Quote:
Originally Posted by anomad
Federal Officers don't do building security, its not their jurisdiction (sort of) and sometimes cheaper to contract out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
All the building security at the Denver Federal Center and all the surrounding federal buildings is contracted out. If there is some kind of threat the FPS guys roll on it.
Another future supply of cheap .357SIG! I hope they get Speer GDHP.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
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A lot of people ask the same thing about you and I.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
While it is concerning when obscure .gov agencies are stocking up because most of the reasons to do that domestically are scary ones...all I can say is make sure you have MORE than them.
Cheap talk. Go up against a few SRT agents and see if you still think the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
I'm sure you're being sarcastic, but my sarcasm meter is on the blink.
Alright, here's the skinny: (I think)
This was really bothering me, so I started looking for some justification here. I spent about an hour searching the net until I found this. The link says that the SSA has an IG office with about 460 criminal investigators and auditors. IF these guys carry guns, the 174k rounds would afford them approximately 375 rounds per agent. No confirmation on whether or not they are armed, but if they are this sounds like a fairly routine and legitimate purchase.
BushMasterBoy wins the thread! [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
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Originally Posted by Zundfolge
I went to the local social security office and pulled down my pants, they gave me disability...
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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
The 174K of ammo is no big deal... The 1.2 billion is...
Hell, I'm sure a few members here have something close to 174K of ammo
On a serious note, something is brewing that is bad. Not sure if it is going to be Iraeli-Iran war with huge oil price spikes, some kind of pandemic like West Nile virus or just the .gov chopping benefits to the entitlement crowd that refuse to work. The Department of Human Slavery buying 1.2 billion rounds of ammunition is surely a sign of things to come!
Dude your joking RIGHT! When and were did you get this crazy idea?? This is the most crazy of all conspiracy ideas i have read on here!! [ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3]Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
Are you serious?
You got 3 extra zeros in your number of rounds there. Still, if you take out about 3 zeros from that figure 6,000 rounds per DHS employee is a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
Hahahaha I can't believe none of us caught that. [Stooge]Quote:
Originally Posted by bogie
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Originally Posted by bogie
You feel Six Thousands rounds is a lot for one person. [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
Shame on you, VPC send you a new membership card??
Does everyone here feel 6K is a lot of ammo for 1 person???
I have a "friend" who has almost that much for each gun in his basement. [Tooth]Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
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Originally Posted by jim
Let me clarify what I meant to say... DHS employees are mostly unarmed (TSA, admin, clerical, etc) when you take out coast guard and other enforcement personnel and when you use that number, 1.2 billion rounds is probably a lot.
Hell I've got close to 6k rounds and I know lots of you guys have more than me. 6k rounds aint sheeeiiittt
i'm too lazy to read the entire thread but there have been guys that have built 9mm and 7.62x25 gas operated ak's as well, im sure a .40 wouldn't be too hard also 40's rim is not too much smaller than 7.62x39 if someone has a .40sw reamer i'd be intereated in making a .40sw ak using a green mountain blank for fun, im sure grease gun mags with tweaked feed lips would work or maybe i would just make a magwell that takes glock mags :)
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Originally Posted by bogie
Oh crap!! I think I added a couple more zeros in the calculator. [ROFL1]
If you look at my math on the post you'll see I took 1.2 trillion instead of billion. [Tooth]
Now the question is how many desk jockeys are in the DHS that don't have guns???? Figure that into the equation and that will increase that 6000 per employee.
This is the correct answer for SSA OIG. The SSA OIG office was first established by a retired US Secret Service agent. When he selected his staff, many of them were also retired USSS. They chose their handgun and ammunition based off of what they were using while working for the USSS. SIG P229, shooting either Federal or Speer .357 SIG JHP.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
None of these contract numbers surprise me. As was stated in an earlier post, buy in bulk for cost savings. Spread the contract over multiple years and allow for extensions to lock in costs before the prices go up. Keeping that in mind, don't you want the government to try to use your tax dollars in a good way? The vast majority of this ammunition will be used up in monthly, quarterly, and annual requals. Contract over runs in any caliber I shoot makes me happy.
Besides, is anyone really worried about a group of armed Department of Education OIG agents storming the local Piggly Wiggly [ROFL1]
Be safe.
Geographically, Boulder, itself, may not be remote; but you got to admit....some of the residents are really "WAAAAYYYY out there..."Quote:
Originally Posted by WETWRKS
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-classifi...g-controversy/
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The Department of Homeland Security has redacted information relating to the quantity of bullets it is buying following a controversy concerning the agency’s purchase of over a billion rounds of ammo, which many fear is a sign the federal government is preparing for civil unrest in the United States.
Despite the fact that documents are only supposed to be redacted if authorized by Congress or for national security reasons, a solicitation posted on the FedBizOpps website yesterday concerning ammunition purchases made by the DHS on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) contains numerous blacked out sections.
I see what you did there...Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
infowars.? Thats like the National Enquirer with tin foil...
Here is what happens when the economy tanks and the government can't really protect you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-19269891
Are you crazy? Like the Gov will never be there to protect us.....Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
Now the social security administration just requested 174k rounds.
http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=ht...-point-bullets