You did see the "01 FFL" part, didn't you? Only the "FTF" was limited to LE/Mil/CCW permits.Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
Next you guys will try to make up stuff about me not wanting to sell my guns to women and minorities? ;)
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You did see the "01 FFL" part, didn't you? Only the "FTF" was limited to LE/Mil/CCW permits.Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
Next you guys will try to make up stuff about me not wanting to sell my guns to women and minorities? ;)
Personally, I really don't want to see firearms for sale threads in the general discussion forum.
...no matter how convoluted and idiotic they become.
Don't blame me. Personally, I didn't want to see my ad turning into a debate in any forum, but here we are.
Here's something no one is mentioning.
Number one rising crime in the US? Identity Theft.
Most cases aren't from hacked databases or any high tech designs. They're good old fashioned legwork, trash sifting, mail theft, social engineering, etc.
I don't like giving my personal information to some guy in a parking lot while we dicker over a firearm, call me crazy.
Aye or what about us guys worryed bout the goverment coming knocking on the door trying to steel our guns?
Going through a CBI, or giving somone all my information, I may as well buy the gun from the store...
#1 reason to do FTF is get somthing thats off the books that you can bury in you back yard incase the gov comes knocking
And now i'm sure somones gonna ask, "oo you'd break the law if guns were made illegal?"
Well it is our obligation as US citizens to rise up and fight opression if the US constitution is breached. It's actually law :)
A couple more voices of reason. Thank you...
Seems to me that we better exercise every freedom we have left. The RIGHT to private purchases is one of them. Who would want to voluntarily "submit" to needless and extralegal scrutiny?? Submissive people obviously...
Trempel, did you live in CA? I used to know someone there who used the same handle.
Yep. I must be the same guy then. From calguns?
Yeah...
What I meant to say, you're in a wrong place with attitude like that. And I do mean state-wise.
Programming.... complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trempel
We must now send them out to spread the word!
Ever heard about the SKS sporters, which were legally purchased, registration forced, and then confiscated from law-abiding citizens in.... California?? I guess if you have the buyer's info, you can send the authorities to their house... Nice.
I don't have a problem with people from California, as long as they check the LIBERAL B.S. at the door on their way in. You're in America now..
Yeah, good luck with that one...Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfpack_one
In this case it ain't liberal BS, but it is BS, alright. I could understand if it were a joke, and at first I thought so, until I saw the rest of the "discussion".
Trempel, and instead of letting your insecurities go wild and getting all defensive, better listen to what people are saying. I am glad to see you made it out of kalifawnia, but why bring all that crap over here?
Excuse me? What crap?! FTF sales are completely illegal in CA, save fro C&R guns. I already explained why I don't feel comfortable doing FTF without a small measure of assurance that the other guy is GTG. I don't make people sign anything or bring me a copy of anything. I don't note down anyone's name in a book.
All of a sudden I'm "Diane Feinstein", coming to take everyone's rights away? You are confused. I don't give a rats tail how you buy your guns. If you cover your face with a bandana and pay cash to some guy named Tiny on Colfax, that's your personal problem. I'm not stopping you. And again, for those with learning disabilities - as long as I stay within the law, I have a right to sell my personal property as I see fit, and to whom I see fit, without consulting anyone, period. Those of you that extol virtues of personal liberty and freedom seem to the the ones that have the hardest time understanding the concept.
More than a few people I know that haven't even been to any liberal state, don't sell FTF, period. It's either through a dealer, where your name goes through CBI, and stays on 4473, etc., or nothing. Exceptions being close family and friends. Maybe you feel that even showing a CDL, to ascertain the persons legal age or status as a CO resident is also too much? You people (yeah, I said it) sound exactly like the MSM makes gun owners out to be.
Yeah, YOU I forgot to ask. Should I tell you where you belong with your attitude, or can you take a wild guess?Quote:
What I meant to say, you're in a wrong place with attitude like that. And I do mean state-wise.
Couldn't be any more clearer. Thanks.