Officer charged in Commerce City dog shooting

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12-20-2012, 18:05
Byte Stryke

I see a plea and subsequent settlement
12-20-2012, 18:30
Kraven251

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I like butter on my popcorn..

Be sure that's butter.
12-20-2012, 19:09
XC700116

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Originally Posted by Troublco

All or nothing, eh? Figures. [fail]

Yes, I'm all about personal responsibility. How about exercising a little bit of it, and placing responsibility where it belongs - on the person who let the dog out. Is there previous history that shows the person who was watching the dog wasn't responsible enough? Or is this the first time they've done something like this? Unless you have factual knowledge that the owner was aware that the person who was watching the dog is irresponsible, I'd say the owner made a good effort at responsibility. Being the owner, they maintain some responsibility. However, SO DOES THE PERSON WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WATCHING THE DOG. [Bang]

Lumping 100% of the blame on the owner is the lazy way out of this situation. The world isn't black and white, slick.

Please show me where I did that one??

I said.

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This cop is an idiot for discharging his sidearm so recklessly, however I have ZERO sympathy for the dog owner. She left her dog with a friend and that friend didn't keep the dog restrained

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Cop was a dumbass no doubt, but the whole thing could have been avoided if the owner and the person she left the dog with would have been responsible in the first place.

That's my WHOLE POINT, while everyone flaming me seems to think it's all the Cop's fault. For fawksakes. [fail] yourself.
12-20-2012, 19:11
XC700116

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Originally Posted by Mtn.man

Have you watched the video?

Yeah I did, did you watch it AND read the quoted article and listen to the 911 call audio files in it? The whole point is this isn't 100% the Cop's bag to hold. There's others that have some responsibility too. The owner and the person she left the dog with.
12-20-2012, 19:53
hammer03

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Originally Posted by kraven251

"An animal control officer who was also present had a catch pole noose around Chloe, but police said the dog remained agitated and uncontrolled."

And this is what will fuck this guy.

Sounds like that guy fucked himself.
12-20-2012, 20:34
Troublco

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Originally Posted by XC700116

Please show me where I did that one??

That's my WHOLE POINT, while everyone flaming me seems to think it's all the Cop's fault. For fawksakes. [fail] yourself.

You are doing a fine job of missing my point; which is - the owner made what I think most people (obviously excluding yourself) would consider a reasonable attempt at being a responsible pet owner by having someone take care of the dog, instead of just leaving it in their backyard. So someone who was entrusted to take care of the dog didn't, and you feel that the owner should just shut up and color.

So according to you; anyone who leaves their dog in the care of anyone else, whether it be a friend or a kennel, and anything like this happens it's partially their fault for being a dog owner. That's what I'm getting from this. If that's incorrect, please explain how.

I was incorrect in saying you were attributing 100% of the blame to the owner.

I still believe the owner made a good effort in trying to be responsible, and it appears you feel that they weren't.

No, it isn't all the officer's fault. The only thing that would be his fault is allegedly shooting the dog multiple times, and missing a couple; endangering the surrounding community. The dog was being held by the animal control officer, that is not in dispute. The fact that the dog got loose initially would be the responsibility of the person caring for the dog. The dog owner is responsible for the fact that they own the dog, and from that would most likely be responsible for the cost of damages resulting from the dog being let loose by the person caring for it, although that person holds the responsibility for the dog being loose. So I suppose it comes down to what you're defining responsibility.

If all you can do is fawksake this and fawksake that, you're doing a fine job of [fail] all by yourself. I wasn't particularly trying to flame you, but you seem to be rather sensitive. This forum is for discourse, discussion, and conversation. That means frequently other people have other opinions. Get used to it.
12-20-2012, 21:16
Mtn.man

Yeah that agree.
12-20-2012, 22:33
UncleDave

The fact that the dog was retrained by the animal control officer and then shot, is tantamount to shooting a suspect that is already cuffed. It is unacceptable under any circumstances. In what I saw in the video the animal was not being aggressive and had retreated to the garage that he was kept in. The the officer who it would appear is afraid of dogs by his actions tasers the dog and sends him into a fear driven freak out. At the very least, reckless endangerment is warranted here. Then a large civil suit.
12-20-2012, 23:06
Irving

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Originally Posted by UncleDave

The fact that the dog was retrained by the animal control officer and then shot, is tantamount to shooting a suspect that is already cuffed. It is unacceptable under any circumstances. In what I saw in the video the animal was not being aggressive and had retreated to the garage that he was kept in. The the officer who it would appear is afraid of dogs by his actions tasers the dog and sends him into a fear driven freak out. At the very least, reckless endangerment is warranted here. Then a large civil suit.

I heard this dog was believed to have been causing a disturbance on the light rail earlier that day.
12-20-2012, 23:16
UncleDave

So what the animal was restrained.
12-20-2012, 23:36
Sharpienads

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Originally Posted by Irving

I heard this dog was believed to have been causing a disturbance on the light rail earlier that day.

Well that comment was fairly racist.

Poor dog. Sucks he had to go that way.
12-20-2012, 23:51
Irving

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Originally Posted by Sharpienads

Well that comment was fairly racist.

Poor dog. Sucks he had to go that way.

Hmmm, that's not at all the way I intended that comment. Now I'm wondering how it was taken.
12-20-2012, 23:56
Fmedges

I didn't sense anything racial about that. To be honest though I wouldn't care if I did.
12-20-2012, 23:57
Sharpienads

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Originally Posted by Irving

Hmmm, that's not at all the way I intended that comment. Now I'm wondering how it was taken.

I was just joking. Its a dog, how could it be racist? I thought you were joking as well. Sorry, crying racism is my default response when I don't really have anything constructive to say.
12-21-2012, 00:24
rgburdie

good! hope he gets the max sentence.
12-21-2012, 00:25
Uberjager

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Originally Posted by Mtn.man

YIPPE KI AY..bout time someone closed the Donut Hole Loop.

I nearly choked on my bourbon!
12-21-2012, 00:39
Irving

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Originally Posted by Sharpienads

I was just joking. Its a dog, how could it be racist? I thought you were joking as well. Sorry, crying racism is my default response when I don't really have anything constructive to say.

Makes sense to me.

I was making an obscure reference to another incident. We'll see if anyone picks up on it.
12-21-2012, 00:50
RCCrawler

Dog didn't look under control to me even with the stick tied to it. It was running right to where the bystander was previously standing, maybe the officer though it was going after that guy. Although the officer didn't show much tact shooting in that same direction.

Not saying the shooter shouldn't be in trouble, just trying to see maybe what he was thinking.
12-21-2012, 07:36
buffalobo

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Originally Posted by KellyTTE

If you tase then pole noose a dog and then drag it around by the head it will freak the fark out no matter how well trained and obedient the animal is.

I consider myself even keeled regarding LE but that animal didn't need to die and that asshat didnt need to discharge his weapon.

Therefore he doesn't need to be a cop or able to own firearms EVER again.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using tapatalk 2

^^This saved me some typing.
12-21-2012, 08:35
sturn18

So if the other officers lied on their reports, and this guy is convicted of a felony, shouldn't the other officers be charged with obstruction of justice. Covering for that a-hole when he committed a crime makes them complicit, or at least it would for anybody not wearing a badge.
12-21-2012, 08:38
Mtn.man

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Originally Posted by sturn18

So if the other officers lied on their reports, and this guy is convicted of a felony, shouldn't the other officers be charged with obstruction of justice. Covering for that a-hole when he committed a crime makes them complicit, or at least it would for anybody not wearing a badge.

I would think some sort of action would/should be taken, the whole thing is on tape and they all participated without 1 of them knocking the shit out of the fatass.
12-21-2012, 08:46
Byte Stryke

Personally I am kinda sad the meteor or planet-X whatever missed the reset button today

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