My my, look who came out out today........

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

so, are you saying two gay men dont both pay into social security? if you are saying that two gays who both work and pay into the system dont deserve the same as a heterosexual couple who does the same, then you are clearly part of the problem. this line of thinking is why republicans will never control shit again. they wont to push their religion based thinking on everyone else.

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HBAR, I think he was talking about the spousal benefits specifically, not the individual ones that everyone is entitled to when they're of retirement age.

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Originally Posted by Sawin

HBAR, I think he was talking about the spousal benefits specifically, not the individual ones that everyone is entitled to when they're of retirement age.

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Thank you. I was. Apparently what I was thinking in my mind did not come across the keyboard as well as in my head.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Very true. I've seen many on here- can't from memory and won't name names- who think homosexuality is "wrong" and "leading to the moral decay of American society." I'll just agree to disagree.


Both sides that believe opposite are wrong. Liberty is a two way street, there is no justification for wanting to be free while attempting to limit how "free" another person may be, regardless of your religious or social beliefs. HBAR said it best, they don't quest for freedom, they just want their way and to hell with everyone who thinks different.

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You just posted a letter that is against females, minorities, gays and non christians etc... make up your mind!!!

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

Thank you. I was. Apparently what I was thinking in my mind did not come across the keyboard as well as in my head.

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no, i get what you are saying. you are saying if you are heterosexual you deserve to get spousal benefits. if you are homosexual you dont? that about sums up your position right?

i dont know any gay people, i have probably only seen a couple gay people in my whole life. but, what you are saying is gay couples dont rate the same consideration as straight couples. that is why the liberals are winning and republicans are losing.

life and America are about freedom. not some twisted conservative version of it. freedom and equality is for everyone. i would ban non church marriage and take away any tax benefits, spousal benefits, etc for being married and solve the problem.

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

You just posted a letter that is against females, minorities, gays and non christians etc... make up your mind!!!

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Posted, asking what people thought... I did not write it, nor do I agree with everything stated in it line by line. C'mon Chunky, let's go build a straw man...

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Posted, asking what people thought... I did not write it, nor do I agree with everything stated in it line by line. C'mon Chunky, let's go build a straw man...

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There were no asking of an opinion. When given one, you were defending the letter -- Calling it the truth.

What I find funny, They gay dudes, that own guns, Yes, there may be quite a few, once they get over the euphoria of civil unions, are going to find out they can't share mags. Then the Hickster may have hell to pay. [LOL]

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

There were no asking of an opinion. When given one, you were defending the letter -- Calling it the truth.

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Only defending from ignorance... I was defending A PART of the letter... not it in it's entirety. Jeez... no wonder America ranks so low in education. [facepalm]

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

Thank you. I was. Apparently what I was thinking in my mind did not come across the keyboard as well as in my head.

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No, it came across alright. You just can't sugar coat being a bigot.

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Originally Posted by Marlin

What I find funny, They gay dudes, that own guns, Yes, there may be quite a few, once they get over the euphoria of civil unions, are going to find out they can't share mags. Then the Hickster may have hell to pay. [LOL]

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but what if the mags are used in their "union"

yep...that went too far.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I guess the silver lining could be that the sooner these get drained the sooner people figure out that those who relied on themselves instead of the government are going to survive...

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Gotta say I think rock bottom/crash will be a quicker way out of this than the 100 years it would take for us to by sheer luck have responsible leadership

Read a lot of good points from many of you here.

To me, all this recent legislation is just "feel good stuff" for the people that currently have the power. Gays have, and always will get together and do their thing...it was said that medically they already had legal recognition? ....now the spouse benefit thing will be legal, and in the long run will have costs to the system. I'll be upfront about it, I don't like that the "everyone is a winner" approach is now active legislation. If you think about it, that's what it is.

Why don't we just call them the T-ball laws. We'll molest a constitutional amendment by taking away all your military death mags, and force everyone to have smaller ones...cause if it'll save just one life it's the right thing to do. And, the poor gay community has been persecuted way too long, we'll make that all legal with paper work and rings and all that happy feel good crap. FTR, I do not care if you're gay, but go ahead and enjoy your special rights in our state now. Kind of along the lines of the marijuana.... Neither are recognized by the federal government....yet.

Until the country approves of it, it's special rights given and guaranteed rights taken away. And wait for the lawsuits, they're a coming.

I hope for this Libtard regime to be voted OUT (here AND fed) and repeal the amendment 2 injustice. I still think this is the best country in the world, and I love her, but this sure is one fucked up system being run poorly, we'd better get our shit together as a country or it's all gonna come apart one day.